The staff and other members have noticed that the ROTM nomination procedure is in need of some help to spark some better interest. This started off as a discussion in the nominations thread for the November ROTM, but I thought it more prudent to move it out into a thread of it's own. There have been some good recommendations, but I would like to hear from more people. I have my own ideas and have been trying to think of some more, but I am only one person. So I (we) need your help!

Here are what a few others have to say:
ORIGINAL: Mbastet99

Not to get this all complicated, but maybe the problem is how quickly the 5 get chosen and the method....
Don't get me wrong, I check BF every day to see what's up, but I always seem to forget about the ROTM until a few days after the 1st of the month, and by then it's already been decided who the 5 are.
Maybe some kind of "open" nominations for the first week, and then some way to decide who the final 5 should be (least nominated previously or something like that?). Or a random selection of 5 people who have posted in the previous month that have been members long enough to be eligible (if it is possible by computer program or such to do this)?

I agree that it's just for fun, but wouldn't it be more fun if it were a surprise who the 5 were? Maybe they could be PMed by the administrator to make sure they wanted to be entered?

And no, this is not sour grapes just because I'm one of the "never been nominated" (I love my Blazer whether it wins anything or not, just so long as it makes me happy), but there are lots of other Blazers on BF that I do admire.

Just my two cents, any one else got change?

ORIGINAL: lennyblazer

I think that if we had open nominations for a week, then we could select the 5 that were seconded the most. Everyone would be able to nominate 3people they wanted, then they could second 3 people. This way it might be a little more fair and then people know that the nominations would take place the first week of the month, because 3 weeks is long enough for voting. Just my opinion


If I left out a quote that you made, don't take it the wrong way. I have limited time right now to wade through everything on the site due to work and am trying to get this stuff figured out as well. Sorry if I forgot your quote, but just post it here again!!


And now, here are my thoughts:

I have been thinking about this for awhile now, but with everything else going on haven't had time to implement anything. I think we should limit the number of nominations to one per person. Do away with seconding all together. I like the lottery aspect and have found a list randomizer online (random.org (http://www.random.org/lists/)) that would make this work. Hold open nominations for the first 10 days of the month. In the nominations thread, it will be the job of the nominator to add to the list of nominees.

So say I nominate Dave (davtak) and I am the first to nominate. I start off by stating:
1. davtak - swartlkk

Now if Dave nominates Lenny (lennyblazer) he'll copy Dave's nomination and add his:
1. davtak - swartlkk
2. lennyblazer - davtak

And so on until the 10 days are up. If there are posts at or around the same time and one ends up being incorrect, then please edit your post to keep the order (I'll help out with that as well).

At the end of the 10 days, I'll take the list that is left and put it into the list randomizer and the top 5 will be our nominees. Heck, we could even do different things like invert the list and have the bottom 5 or use only the odd numbers (that could be a poll over the first 10 days of the nominations!). It could get much more fun this way and there would be a lot of luck involved wit

I posted one too in the earlier posts of this months rotm. My thought is that one person can't be nominated more than twice or three times in a row and one person can't nominate more than two people and the same for seconding. Some people are nominating alot of people and I agree that the five for voting are being picked way too quickly. The idea you had about nominating people for the first week and then randomly chosing the top five sounds like a real good idea to me. If you need a moderaor for this, I'd be happy to lend a hand. I'm on here whenever I get free time.

Yeah I like the idea of randomization, also takes away the seconding like you said. I think you should keep going with that "hodge-podge" you have there,Swartlk.

Dave and Kyle, I like your thoughts, but if we can't nominate somebody more than two or three months in a row then the 'randomization' aspect could keep that person from ever getting into the final pool. I see no need for 'seconding'. Let's take the nominees names (whatever number limit is decided), put them into the 'randomizer' and let nature take its course. We can then vote from the first 5, or however many, that pop up from that group. I would suggest that a member be limited to 2 or 3 wins per 12 month period; that way more people get a shot at it. After all, it's really just an honorary award and I would like to see more members get a chance at being declared the winner.
Was this rambling enough?:)

We already have a 1 win per calendar year limit and that was set to lay the ground work for a ROTY which I didn't get around to doing this year...

I think it would be way to complicated to keep track of who has been nominated over the last 2 or 3 months to impose such a rule, but I am keeping an open mind with all of this so keep the ideas flowing!

I see your point. People can only win once year anyway, so if people get nominated every month or evry other month (you get my point), they will win sooner or later hopefully. I think that the random drawing thing will make it a lot more exciting to see who is going to go for rotm every month. Do you have an idea for a limit onhow many people getnominatedor how many each person can nominatebecause I've seen some poeple nominate like 3 people and second a couple too. That is a little too much cause I think that takes away from other people who want to nominate someone. This way, everybody is going to get a chance to be either nominated or to nominate thier favorite for rotm. This is going to work well I think.

Yeah, I agree that there should be no limit on how many times a person can be nominated, but you can only win once per year. So then the 12 winners are automatically in the pool for ROTY in December.

I also don't think the same person should be able to win ROTY twice in a row. It doesn't seem likely this would happen anyway, but you never know.

I also like the randomization idea of picking the five candidates per month.

I like the new system you've come up with.

I think we should also setprerequisites(sp?) for ride of the month. I think maybe you should have at least one performance, one cosmetic, and one audio/visual electronicmod to be able to be nominated. I've seen some over the last few months who are getting nominated just because of who they are.

As davtak said... I'll volunteer to help monitor and moderateROTM if you need me to.

My opinion is that it isn't the ride alone, but obviously that isn't shared by many others. To require one mod in each of those categories is asking a lot. My point is that someone could own a bone stock, showroom quality 93 Blazer (for lack of a better example) and if they didn't have anything done to it other than it still being pristene, they couldn't participate in ROTM. To require mods to be eligible isn't practical at all, IMO

Anyway, here are the revised rules from DodgeIntrepid.net, where I started out my forum activity so many years ago. They recently went through a total revamp of their COTM. There was a controversy over the administration of the previous method that did away with the whole thing. Anyway, read on if you have some time to kill:

NOTE: This is a cleaned up copy of the original announcement. This thread has the answers to the concerns raised by the members along with the outline of the contest.

Due to popular demand, the administration has decided that DI.net will once again have a monthly contest where the members select a car to become the "Car Of The Month". We can all pretty much agree that IOM is dead. While this new contest is similar, there are going to be some major changes to make things more fair and less of a burden on the administration than IOM had become.
Because this is a new contest, all previous winners of IOM will be eligible to win. Please keep in mind though that there are many deserving cars that did not win IOM and it would be nice to see the owners of these cars get some recognition. There are many members of this site who have moved on from their LH vehicles but continue to visit the site and modify their new cars. We are opening this contest to all makes and models so they will now be eligible to win as well.
The nomination and voting process will be different as well. The COTM team will make an announcement on the home page when nominations will be accepted. All members will have one week to submit their nomination to the team via PM. These PM's should have the name of the person you would like to nominate for the subject, and nothing else. No messages will be opened and if the name is not in the subject line the message will be ignored. The nominations will then be reviewed by the members of the COTM team who will decide which 5 cars will be eligible to win for that month. The names of these members will then be announced on the home page, along with a link to the voting poll. To combat cheating and make things more fair for the nominees, voting will be limited to premiere and platinum members only. Please keep in mind that all members are still allowed to submit nominations and are also eligible to win. Voting will be open for one week and the winner will then be announced.
The COTM team will monitor the process carefully to ensure that their is no dishonest behavior occuring. Remember that this is a friendly competition and it is only for fun.
Additionally, no abuse of the COTM team will be tolerated, This includes unkind rep messages and negative comments in the forums. If there is something that you think is unfair or if you have a suggestion to make please do so in a PM to the team. We're all adults here and starting a thread for the purpose of complaining accomplishes nothing.
Good luck to everyone!

01-05-2007, 04:40 PM #2
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Originally Posted by Bimmer_2002
I'm glad that we finally have a COTM contest. Only thing I don't agree with is the fact that non-LH cars are eligible to win. It kind of defies the point of this club....Anyways, I respect the rules and won't complain. Again this is just my opinion.....When do we start nominating????
Your concern is understandable. Just keep in mind that nominations will come from the members and will be reviewed by the panel. This is one of the reasons why the panel is in place. It was expanded to all cars f

I see what you mean there. Half baked idea. Maybe we should limit it to at least a clean Blazer if not a heavily modded one.
Even though most POS Blazers wouldn't be nominated...
Nevermind.

ORIGINAL: EuroGoldLS

I see what you mean there. Half baked idea. Maybe we should limit it to at least a clean Blazer if not a heavily modded one.
Even though most POS Blazers wouldn't be nominated...
Nevermind.


Clean?! That would eliminate the mudders LOL

I like the new proposal you have come up with, Kyle.

And I completely agree that it is not just about the ride all the time, but also about the member.

Maybe it would be a good time to do something like a "Member Spotlight" and this would eliminate the controversy surrounding whether you vote according to the person or the ride (I do both...it depends on the month). Outstanding members could then be recognized as people, not just as their Blazer. Then the ROTM would be all about the ride, not the person.

Another way to resolve it is something that I am not sure we could use with the software here, but on another forum I am on there is a thing for "Giving Karma".

Here's a run-down on how it works:

Karma System (http://www.discusscooking.com/forums/f31/karma-system-12621.html)

You could use the karma to recognize members and it would alleviate the stress about the ROTM being about the person and not the ride, since there are differing opinions on it.

I think the point is not to limit. I think the way that we have been going about nominations, the open fashion of them, allows for anyone that meets the current activity and pics in gallery requirements to be nominated. To restrict things further would be shifting it into a more specialized, almost theme like contest.
Now we toyed with that idea months back as well. Kind of a themed ROTQ (ride of the quarter), but with everything as it was then, it just wasn't feasible to setup and implement. But then you run out of themes and start repeating. How many lowered trucks do we have? Lifted? Offroaded? <-- put my Rainier in there! Got it pretty dirty last weekend and plan on doing it again this weekend when I'm out checking tree stands.

Now the last two categories get a bit more populated, but, the majority they are not... There are quite a few trucks with stereos, some with custom paint/bodywork, a bunch with aftermarket rims, but the point is that I would venture to guess that +90% of our users don't have any of this stuff. I for one didn't have anything like that in my old Bravada nor do I plan on doing anything to my Rainier, but it still doesn't stop me from going through the woods or crossing creeks with either of them.

I think I'm trying to prove a point in there somewhere... LOL Sorry about the ramblings. It's been a hectic day.

And moonie, yes, I do think we need to get some kind of rep system going.

ORIGINAL: m00nwater
Clean?! That would eliminate the mudders LOL

Yet again proves that it was a stupid idea! LOL
I'll keep my thoughts in the oven until they are fully baked from now on!

I think the karma system may be something we can propose later after we do some thinking on it a while..

As far as the proposal about nominations go.... we may can try it for a month and if everyone likes it, let it float!

the rep system I have seen on other forums has been abused badly. One one forum (jimmy knows it) the mods can only give rep points for (informative posts, good links, and so on) but it can work well on our forum. this is a fairly friendly forum and i think it can work.

swartlkk - I like your idea in your first post on this thread, I believe a system like that would make it more fun, slightly harder, and definately a more random way of getting vehicles to vote on. I like this idea a lot. If you want help or an moderator for just rotm or roty thing I wouldn't mind helping out.

Wow, that's a lot of reading!
Ultimately, I'd love to see every member win ROTM at least once, as all of os feel that our own trucks are special in some way.
I like some of the ideas I've read so far, but honestly, I haven't read it all....yet.
Random draw of nominees...good idea.

I'm with Lenny, I think Kyles first idea would work pretty good, I dont really like the idea of the karma thing, or doing themes b/c as Kyle said about himself, he doesnt have anything done to his to fit into those categories, neither do plenty of other members. But 1 thing I was unclear on w/ Kyles first idea, is what would be random? The final members that we would be voting on based on the nominations? Or the nominations themselves?

what if there were more than 5 in the running for ROTM, what if you could vote for one out of a group of 10

There would be too many oppertunities to tie, if you look back to July, when we had six rides.... we had a tie.

If Kyle's thinking is like mine.....take all of the rides that were nominated over the week, plug them into the "randomizer" and have the 5 choices to vote for from that. If it randoms them into a "no particular order" list (ie. not alphabetical, not shortest to longest, etc) then the mod would take the top 5 (or bottom 5, or every other one or whatever) to be the 5 to vote on.

^^Ok, that makes sense if thats what Kyle is talking about too

Hi y'all! Sorry I missed the acceptance of my nominations again this month, (thanks to those who nominated me again!) but I've been VERY busy with the girls and work, and haven't been online much at all. I also want to appologize to any of you who have e-mailed me with repair/diagnosis questions and didn't get a response. If you still need help send me another e-mail and I'll get back to ya.

Now, my thoughts on this subject are these:
I agree that everyone should be allowed ONLY nominating one person/ride per month.
I think that anyone who is nominated and loses should be able to compete every month if someone nominates them.
I think that anyone who WINS ROTM should not be eligible for competition again for a ROLLING 12 months, if I'm not mistaken, the current rule allows the same member to WIN in December and again the next month because it's a new calander year.
I agree with the random drawing of names for the competition, take all the noms each month and put them in a hat, draw 5 and we have our competitors.
I think that ANY registered street VEHICLE, includingblazers, bravadas, fords, mopars, nissans etc should be eligible for competition because alot of us nominate and vote for the person, not the ride.
I feel that moderators should be allowed2 votes each for their favorite ride, and administrators should be allowed 5 votes each, because these guys/gals devote alot of their time contributing to this site and their vote should count for more than a person who just comes on here to show off their mods or critisize someone else's ride.
And Of course there should be no reqirement for any modifications.

randomize it...I'm sick of the same old people every month...I don't even think you should nominate...just form a list of eligible people and randomize it...

Well, I had a nice long post typed up but lost it..

Anyway, Karin, the idea of maintaining a list of all eligible members for a random drawing of 5 would require a tremendous amount of work just to compile, let alone maintain such a list. This may be accomplished by just coming up with a list of say 20 random member numbers and the 1st 5 to meet the criteria necessary for nomination will be in the voting. Now I chose 20 due to the fact that roughly 1300 of our 8000+ registered members have over 5 posts. One of the previous requirements for eligibility is to have 3+ posts in each of the two preceeding months, but I see that failed to make it into the updated rules I posted... LOL. 20 may even be low...

Using that idea, here is a list of 25 member numbers randomly selected from the entire list:
7634 - lamaredskin - Joined: 8/25/2007 - Total Posts: 0
4661 - CaboKP - Joined: 12/11/2006 - Total Posts: 4
4542 - only993 - Joined: 12/2/2006 - Total Posts: 0
2444 - jaris - Joined: 4/14/2006 - Total Posts: 0
3132 - MyHoopdie - Joined: 7/8/2006 - Total Posts: 2
5363 - cobra777 - Joined: 2/1/2007 - Total Posts: 1
7561 - racerxseven - Joined: 8/17/2007 - Total Posts: 0
3261 - lubinshan - Joined: 7/22/2006 - Total Posts: 0
782 - 98BlackS10Blaz - Joined: 6/22/2005 - Total Posts: 1
3393 - SoDakBlazer - Joined: 8/5/2006 - Total Posts: 1
1007 - bobcat31male - Joined: 8/14/2005 - Total Posts: 0
4018 - tfhickey - Joined: 10/16/2006 - Total Posts: 0
4322 - ChevyB_1028 - Joined: 11/14/2006 - Total Posts: 0
5392 - 07g5gt - Joined: 2/5/2007 - Total Posts: 20
2817 - blazer3 - Joined: 6/2/2006 - Total Posts: 2
6332 - envoy2nv - Joined: 4/23/2007 - Total Posts: 0
7850 - BlazinHaze - Joined: 9/14/2007 - Total Posts: 0
1671 - 00BlueBlazer - Joined: 1/2/2006 - Total Posts: 0
1205 - KurtDCobain4ever - Joined: 10/11/2005 - Total Posts: 10
7632 - jtharp17 - Joined: 8/25/2007 - Total Posts: 2
1789 - Kraker_Jax - Joined: 1/19/2006 - Total Posts: 2
4625 - Nations811 - Joined: 12/8/2006 - Total Posts: 2
5890 - cheap1 - Joined: 3/19/2007 - Total Posts: 0
6619 - ironanimals - Joined: 5/19/2007 - Total Posts: 0
7075 - 99blklt4wd - Joined: 6/30/2007 - Total Posts: 2

Now that was just an exersize more for myself to see how long it would take to get all of that information. With that said, it took me well over 30 minutes to get all of that together. And out of 25 numbers generated and none of them meet the requirements.

On the 12 month waiting period. I'm leaning towards adopting this. There has only been one case (Chevy Lover) where someone has repeated inside the 12 month period and that was for a different vehicle entirely so does that even apply here... And about that, Rob didn't even want to run in the January '07 ROTM, but was encouraged to. I will say one more thing about that. This site has grown by leaps and bounds since the first of the year. We have MANY more members and a growing staff as well. This is primarily why we are having this discussion.

Not that we have been ignoring it, but how does everyone feel about the requirements for eligibility (activity and length of membership)?

Sorry for the long post folks...

I'm not sure I like the idea of just randomly selectinglike you did above, (I was amazed at how many people have been members for months and not made a single post!) and I agree that there needs to be some kind of involvement prerequisite, but not one for mods, as lastcoupe said some of us vote for the people to,not just thetruck.I think we should still have nominations, but have limits on how many people you can nominate at once.
Ialso like the 12 month idea, even though it would probably be rare that that would happen.

Here's another idea, hopefully someone didnt come up with this since there's alot to read in this thread. Lets say we nominate 5 people for December, and of course 1 person wins. Now the other 4 people can't be nominated till the Febuary ROTM. So in other words 4 people can't be nonminated till the following month that way we don't have the same trucks nonminated every month and it'll give some of our newer members a shot at running for ROTM. Now I feel that members need to wait at least one month before being nominated. We can't really base it on post counts because alot people can't get online alot because of work or other personal reasons. Again someone might have come up with this, but thats just my .02's on it. Oh yea people also have to have galleries to get nominated.

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I just noticed what Blackjacket wrote and if people have zero posts but have been on for awhile should not be considered in the nominations.

I agree that you should be on the forum for atleast 3 months before being eligible for ROTM. This gives you a chance to rack up some posts, gain some experience on the forum, and get a feel for the forum, meet some people, and become able to give some advice on their own too.

I like the 12month waiting period if you have already won ROTM, even if you have two vehicles that you have on the forum. Personally I also think that the vehicles that can be voted on should be S10-Blazers, K5s, trailblazer, and anything that shares the same platform. The vehicles do not need to be modded to be voted on, but I am sure it would help.

I like the idea of everyone is only allowed to nominate one person each month and then depending on when you accept your nomination, be placed in a list from earliest acceptance to last acceptance for the first ten days of the month. Then use the randomizer to pick five vehicles and then have people send in the link for their picture and post those up and have voting till the end of the month. The idea that people can not be voted on two months in a row is a good idea. What I would like to see is that say the 4 people that don't win ROTM in July, can't be voted on again till the September vote.

Also Kyle if you want any help running the ROTM, I am more than willing to help out with it.

What if you did something like a post quota or something. That would weed out the people with little or no posts. There is a place in the member profile that shows the date the last post was made on. Just randomizing it for everyone will include the people who signed on the site just to sell something. It might seem like a little work, but if an account has been active for over a year or two with no posts and no login in the past one or two years, it should be deleted for the purpose of the randomizing thingie.

Now the other 4 people can't be nominated till the Febuary ROTM. So in other words 4 people can't be nonminated till the following month that way we don't have the same trucks nonminated every month and it'll give some of our newer members a shot at running for ROTM. Now I feel that members need to wait at least one month before being nominated. We can't really base it on post counts because alot people can't get online alot because of work or other personal reasons. Again someone might have come up with this, but thats just my .02's on it. Oh yea people also have to have galleries to get nominated.

I did come up with something like that and it was deemed as a little too much work controlling something like that. Could it be done, yes. But with all the other stuff that is being aded, it is a little too much to follow. Good idea though. The randomizing aspect kind of takes care of this problem anyway. My view of this aspect is that say lastcoupe (for example) was nominated for march rotm in '08 and was picked in the randomization and then was picked again in april '08, what do you think the chances would be of being picked again for may '08. I'm sure even if someone was being picked by the randomizing software a few too many times in a row, we would change it to make someone else eligible.

I like the 12 month aspect though. Someone who runs and wins in say november, shouldn't be able to run until the next november, not january like the current rule.

i agree with alot of what everyone has said about the rotm if your nominated one month and don't win you should be able to be nominated again and if you win you don't get nominated til that month the following year just the whole nominating the nominees would be a lil difficult if you don't know who is still active and who isn't. im just saying that forthose who are new, those of us who have been on for a long time and have gotten to know one another know who's here and who's not we know who we can vote for and who not to because there no longer an active member so to sum it up i just like a random choose who want narrow it down to most votes for top 5 then have the regular top 5 vote off for rotm

That's why I am a moderator of the rotm voting, to help Kyle sort out the voting and catch any mistakes if there is any. I think it will be easier than people think. Shoot me a pm Kyle or meet me on im to discuss how the voting is going to work so I know, if you are going to start it this coming month.

Man it's been hectic for me lately! LOL Anyway, Dave, shoot me a PM or catch me on IM. I should be around later tonight as I don't think my Fire Officer 1 course is going to fly this time around. We'll get this hashed out. I think we are going to use the model presented in this thread, but we just have to work out the logistics.

I hear that. I am working like crazy this week and when I get home, I am too exhausted to do anything. I go on the computer for a bit, but just to check my mail and stuff. I won't be able to get on im tonight(tuesday), but I will go on tomorrow(wednesday)night sometime after 7. I usually log of around 10-11 depending on how tired I am.

yea i like the idea of being able to vote for any type of car the person has. i for one would like to be able to vote for lets say kyles chevelle when its done thats forsure....and i also no longer have a blazer anymore but like hanging around the forum to see whats up because of the great group of people we have on here and i have a little knowledge about blazers and gm products (currently own a silverado) so.... with that said i guess im just throwing out support of an idea brought up earlier by lastcoupe i believe it was

maybe i didnt understand itbut when we nominate someone we list the prev. nominees and then after the week is up do the nominated people have to accept or is there a secondin process?

jimmyboy

I have to get the completye rundown from Kyle about how it's going to work, but I'm pretty sure that there is going to be no more seconding. I think that the way it's going to work is that everyone is going to nominate one person per month, sticking with the present rule of no person can win more than once a year. I'm still not sure if these people who get nominated have to accept or not, but I'll find out. I'm pretty certain though that the people who get nominated are going into a pool persay, and five will be picked from that list randomly. And then those five will be the five who go into the voting for rotm. I think it will be more fun this way, and some people who didn't really get a chance before, will now have a chance. The nominating process wil be a little different, but the voting is still the same. Kyle is going to inform me of the changes and how it's going to work. I am going to lend a hand to make sure that the nominations go smoothly. I'm sure that when the time comes, the new process is going to be explained to everyone.

As far as the previous nominees, as far as I know, people can be nominated every month. Not saying that they will be in the voting, because it is going to be random. The only way the same perosn cannot be nominated twice in a row is if they won. Then if they won, they will not be eligible until one complete year later. Not the following year, 12 months later. So say I won the December 07 rotm, I could not be nominated again until December 08 rotm. Like I said, everything will be explained to everyone when the time comes.

Nomination Eligibility:
This is pretty simple. There are only four criteria that the nominees must meet. 1) Nominees must have been a member for 2 months prior to the month nominations are being held in. 2) Nominees must have 5 posts in each of the 2 preceeding months. 3) All nominees must have a gallery containing atleast one picture of their vehicle. 4) Previous ROTM winners are not eligible for 12 months from the month they won in. So not only do you need to have been a member for atleast 2 months prior to the current month, you also have to have posted atleast 5 times a month. This is to make sure that the nominees are still active in the forum. This goes for any member, not just the new ones!


So Here's the procedure: Members can nominate one(1) eligible member each during the first week of the month.
All accepted nominees will be put into a list in order of nomination.
All nominees must accept prior to the 10th of the month.
The list will be randomized (http://www.random.org/lists/?mode=advanced) with the results to be posted in the nomination thread.
At the same time, the chosen candidates will be notified via PM to send links to the ROTM picture of their choosing (640x480 only please)
The Voting thread will be setup by the 14th of the month with or without pictures.

I would like the nomination thread to have posts containing ONLY nominations or accepting nominations. The nomination posts should only list the member being nominated and the person doing the nominating (i.e. davtak - swartlkk where I am nominating davtak). After someone has been nominated, they must accept to be put into the list prior to randomizing. Periodically through the thread, either davtak or myself will post a summary of the nominations up to that point. After the first week of nominations, a post will be made stating that nominations are closed and the final list will be created. The nominees will then have 3 more days to accept their nominations. From there, the randomized list of the accepted nominations will be posted and the top 5 will move on to the voting.

Please be assured that the randomization will be unbiased in any way. The list will be copied into the utility found on random.org (http://www.random.org/lists/?mode=advanced) with the advanced option of the pregenerated randomization from a date to be announced after nominations have closed. This will ensure that if any member were to question the randomization, they could go in and perform the exact same randomization with the list from the nomination thread. The date of the pregenerated randomization will be referenced when the randomized list is posted.

I am going to post a poll on whether this should be BOTM (Blazer of the Month - to include all fullsize, s-series, and GMT360/370 variants), ROTM (Ride of the Month - open to any vehicle in a member's garage), or MOTM (Member of the Month). I also would like to start a poll on doing a 'Member Spotlight' as Jenn (m00nwater) suggested, possibly instead of having just a MOTM voting alone, this would be separated. Well, I'll combine the polls, hows that..?

*EDIT* - Forgot the gallery requirement.

I was just looking at the post from before about the people who only have like 2 posts or something. Do you think we should have something like if you there is no activity within a few years, the account should be deleted. This would free up some of the confusion, it would probably take a while though, seeing how many people have only a few posts.

I think that is something best discussed separately with Patrick and the rest of the staff.

Well, I guess that the rule about the member must have at least five posts would cancel them out. Thanks for the write-up on it Kyle. I'll make sure to print it out to keep it handy next to my computer so I don't have to keep checking this.

I'm going to add this to the ROTM rules post (or maybe just write up another one).

This thread has served its purpose. Thank you to everyone that contributed!!

You're welcome. Hope the changes are successful!