Ok so i got really lucky last feburary when i purchased my 2001 2wd 2 dr blazer. Stock its was running a 16.7 in the quarter which was better then it was supposed to be. Now more mods have been done and its been tuned by Mach Performance for 91 octane. Whos nows what this thing is gonna runn now it was projected by mach to run 14.8-14.9 on a custum 87 octane tune. but now bill knows its a freak and tuned it to 91 on top of that. So im guesin low 14's easy after i get the limit slip in, cause hooking right now is a joke to yokahamas just go up in smoke hahahahha track times will be posted soon. was gonna go today but the tune got postponed till today so now i have to wait a week or two till i can get it out to the track and run it. :D:D;):D:D

That seams kind of crazy running 14's in a blazer. What kind of mods?

it take a little bit to lose 2 seconds in the 1/4 mile..what kinda mods did u have done?

umm i have a cia with heat shields and soon to be heat wraped, and moved the sensors around to fool with computer alittle. took out the eyebrow in the intake and polished the whole inside of it, cleaned the intake. trans has custom servos and some other stuff done. different plugs. and the pcm was tuned by mach for 91 octane and he played with the trans settings to get the most out of my servos and line pressure. i also lowered my blazer 5 inches not that that matters but. i beat an 01 gt mustang yesterday with exhaust and cia. and a stock ws6 last week

Now a factory stock GT I can beleive if you are actually running 14.7sec, but I'm still skeptical of your times. A stock GT will run right around your time, but open the exhaust and intake and all bets are off.

Now I'm calling flat out BS on your WS6 story. A bone stock WS6 TA will run mid-to-low 13sec 1/4s all day long! Only thing that may slow one down is if they can't get traction, but he'd have to smoke the launch to loose almost a full second!

You have those slips yet? How about your 1/4 trap speed? 60' time? 1/8th mile time/speed? And actually, now that you stretched things alittle further, I'm pretty much going to have to see a video of you passing the 1/4 in the times you quote to lower my BS flag.

no i havent made it to the track yet still tryin to make down there but my front hub went saturday and that pretty much ruined my chance, so im still waiting to get down there. it wasnt a newer ws6, it didnt have an ls1 yeah right id call bs on myself if i said i beat an ls1. but the gt just had a cat back exhaust and k&n on it and a stupid cocky kid behined the wheel.

umm i have a cia with heat shields and soon to be heat wraped, and moved the sensors around to fool with computer alittle. took out the eyebrow in the intake and polished the whole inside of it, cleaned the intake. trans has custom servos and some other stuff done. different plugs. and the pcm was tuned by mach for 91 octane and he played with the trans settings to get the most out of my servos and line pressure.

WOWWW! If that's all it takes to run low 14's........I'm going to port my heads, install a 2400 stall converter and a set of 4.56:1 gears and I should easily get into the 10 second range huh?..............I Smell SHIITTTT!!!!

Your on the wrong site go find some honda boys to believe that bs.

I have the same year engine and size blazer and mine ran 16.72 stock it runs an even 16 with the mods I made to it(which is more than a few). So this story sounds like crap to me!

Hey guys...I think he's kidding. You know, trying to liven up the forum a bit. Or......at least I hope he is kidding. :D

Nope no kidding here. it ran a 16.5 stock and is project to run a low 14 after exhaust(which is not done yet) there fore its running a high 14's because the exhaust is not allowing it to flow freely. i know taking two seconds is crazy with just a few simple mods. But then again ive been building custom cars for years and know how to setup a car. and do u really think im going to tell u everything in exact detail what ive done to it so other people can do the same stuff and be running the same timess hahahhaha YOU MUST BE JOKING. just know a couple things, the basics of motors and what they need AIR, FUEL, SPARK, and how EFFICENTLY those process get done. then going through the drive train to match it. and on a side note MACH PERFORMANCE did the tune enough said.

LOL. I love you people that think that you've got something special, but when challenged, refuse to pony up. What's the problem with divulging your super secret mods?[:-] Someone copy you? And what? Find out that you were a complete liar?:eek:

And ooooohhhhh..... Aaaahhhh..... Mach performance..... WOOOOOWW!!! Give me a break. You can tune on a stock engine all day long and not get close to dropping 2sec off the 1/4. So basically what you're saying is that what you have done has doubled the hp out of your engine... RIGHT!!!

You still haven't answered ANY of my questions. If you truely know how this truck runs in the 1/4, you would also know what 60' times you run, 1/8 mile speed/time, as well as definitely knowing the mph it traps in the 1/4.

One last thing... Oh yeah!!! Cause we know all about all of these *custom* rides you've been building. Please. It's put up time or shutup. You've already made a complete joke of yourself.

You ask and you shall recieve

Well, it's been goin' on 3 weeks since I have asked the first time. So... forgive me if I don't hold my breath... Are you saying that you don't go to the drags all that often with your 'freak' of a blazer?

I'm really going to need a video of you tree to finish line to believe any of this. You just keep getting deeper and deeper with no hope of coming out on top...

And if the races with the GT and WS6 weren't at a strip, then they cannot be discussed as they aren't true races anyhow.

ORIGINAL: offroaddude77

Nope no kidding here. it ran a 16.5 stock and is project to run a low 14 after exhaust(which is not done yet) there fore its running a high 14's because the exhaust is not allowing it to flow freely. i know taking two seconds is crazy with just a few simple mods. But then again ive been building custom cars for years and know how to setup a car. and do u really think im going to tell u everything in exact detail what ive done to it so other people can do the same stuff and be running the same timess hahahhaha YOU MUST BE JOKING. just know a couple things, the basics of motors and what they need AIR, FUEL, SPARK, and how EFFICENTLY those process get done. then going through the drive train to match it. and on a side note MACH PERFORMANCE did the tune enough said.


OK....I'm gettin' my BOOTS....LOL While we're telling tall tales....My 5000 pound Caprice just ran a 6.07 second 1/4 mile with a small block on pump gas.....lol But I WILL NOT TELL YOU ANY OF MY "SECRETS".

you are right i dont find my way down there too often. sorry for having priorities(college) and not being able to get down there as soon and as often as i would like too. and you will have a video of the finish line as well.

ok buddy as for the college excuse--im calling bull****. I myself am in college and with a very heavy course load---34hours in class plus maybe 1-2hours work each night PLUS I have a part time job (20 hours or so a week) PLUS I have a girlfriend---I still find time to go wheeling with my buddies---a couple runs down the track takes nowhere near the time that hitting a couple trails with the boys will----including a commute!

you might as well dissappear off of this forum until you pony up some proof---these people will eat you alive [sm=innoc.gif]

I'm calling your BS. Straight from Car and Driver: Stock 4.3L V6 2dr. Blazer runs 16.8 in the 1/4 mile. Stock 4.3L V6 Xtreme Blazer runs 16 in the 1/4 mile. You don't have a "freak blazer."

As for your Mach Performance:

This is from an e-mail from Mach Performance-

The Mach Performance Xtreme Blazer 1/4 mile time: 13.54 @ 103.88 - 2002 Blazer Xtreme, Automatic, Catback Exhaust, Turbocharged 11 psi boost, Valvetrain Upgrade Package icluding: ARP Conversion Studs, Comp Pro Magnum 1.6 Roller Rockers, Mach Performance Valve Cover Spacers, and One piece chromemoly hardened pushrods.

Now this is $7000 worth of parts that were put on to rep the company. Don't you think that if they could just do a few simple non-costly mods like you did and run 14's they would have done that instead? So until you put your timeslip up on the site then you have absolutely no credibility for your claims.

you just got owned. :D

ORIGINAL: rabbit0102030

I'm calling your BS. Straight from Car and Driver: Stock 4.3L V6 2dr. Blazer runs 16.8 in the 1/4 mile. Stock 4.3L V6 Xtreme Blazer runs 16 in the 1/4 mile. You don't have a "freak blazer."

As for your Mach Performance:

This is from an e-mail from Mach Performance-

The Mach Performance Xtreme Blazer 1/4 mile time: 13.54 @ 103.88 - 2002 Blazer Xtreme, Automatic, Catback Exhaust, Turbocharged 11 psi boost, Valvetrain Upgrade Package icluding: ARP Conversion Studs, Comp Pro Magnum 1.6 Roller Rockers, Mach Performance Valve Cover Spacers, and One piece chromemoly hardened pushrods.

Now this is $7000 worth of parts that were put on to rep the company. Don't you think that if they could just do a few simple non-costly mods like you did and run 14's they would have done that instead? So until you put your timeslip up on the site then you have absolutely no credibility for your claims.



this was off of a idle launch though- with a launch 13.2 to 13.1 could be possible, what turbo do they run? t3/t4 60-1 P-trim?

AND HAAHAHAHHAHAAH I ALMOST **** MY PANTS WHEN HE SAID LOW 14's WITHOUT CAM OR HEADWORK IN A N/A BLAZER BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH- and he calls plugs performance parts ....... you've been lied to man. go run a stock 05 or 06 they are high 13 low 14 second cars with mods- and tell me if you can even keep up through second gear.... lol!


MACHPERFORMANCE SUCKS ASS- check out s10forum he has been shunned and banished from that forum for screwing people over. talk to sy-clone on that forum- he bought a turbo tune from machperformance and all that was changed was the timing was retarted some. so on your 91 tune he prolly just advanced timing 2 degrees or something.... wow

AND WTF A STOCK WS6- stop trying to impress us- a stock WS6 runs 13.0 to 13.3 so go jump off a bridge........ wow your retarded- im gonna have a really tough time with a stock WS6 on 12psi in my blazer running through a T4 60-trim

ORIGINAL: swartlkk

Now a factory stock GT I can beleive if you are actually running 14.7sec, but I'm still skeptical of your times. A stock GT will run right around your time, but open the exhaust and intake and all bets are off.

Now I'm calling flat out BS on your WS6 story. A bone stock WS6 TA will run mid-to-low 13sec 1/4s all day long!


my stock GT ran 14.4 with no exhaust...once i bolted on the O/R x-pipe and hollow muffler i was at a 14.1.....so i highly doubt u beat a GT unless the guy seriously didn't know how to drive...and yea i agree with swart on the WS6 story...like he said...mid to low 13 sec. bone stock car...those WS6's are no joke. Im waiting to her...."O i beat a EVO 9 the other day". lol

He didn't say in the e-mail what turbo they run. This guy can't keep his story straight anyway. He said in the first post that he was running a "16.7 which is better than its supposed to be" when clearly as I stated from Car and Driver it is an average 1/4 time. Then a few posts later when he is trying to defend his claim he says he is running 16.5's. So which is it? He trips and falls flat on his face over his own lies. Maybe it is just me, but does it tick you off when people try to be special (because there is nothing else about them that sets them apart) or make unfounded claims to get attention? The WS6 story *hahahahahahaha* he was joking right?! I'm not sure I could even think up a lie like that because I'd be laughing at myself to hard! Beating a GT *hahahaha*? No way. Sorry. I own a 95 GT with 25,000 miles on it. I know what they are capable of (and that's an older model not as finely tuned as the ones from the last few years). Your dreaming on that one buddy. Wow, if Offroaddude does come back for more punishment from those of us who know better, then we better get some wading pants. With the stories he is laying down it's getting real deep in here!

hey i just wanted to come on here and clear things up a little if possible for u guys. Saturday Oct. 7th i will be going to milan to run my blazer for the day. regardless of what it runs i will post it and the video. Even if i dont run what i say (ex. 15.7 in the quarter) doesnt matter if im wrong ill be the first to admit it. but im still sticking to my guns until i know for sure. next question "Were did u come up with 14.7?" well i didnt pull it out of my butt. nonnono thats what i was told by a couple of well known engine builders(KATECH) and ive been racin for many years, from waterford, ssca, milan, motocross. all of it, i was fortunate to be born in to a racing family. it just feels like it could be close i will not be runnin low 14's for a while, i need a couple more things to get it down there but low 15's high 14's is plausable. im not on here to mess with u guys/girls or piss u off. im on here for the same reasons u are. I am a proud owner of a blazer. i guess i should have posted something in the new members section first before comin on here and sayin i run 14's. u guys seem pretty cool and id like to keep it that way. i will post some pics of my blazer later on tonight or something on here. i love my blazer as do im sure the rest of u do ur own blazers.

i cant wait to see what this thing runs and i will share it with u, i have nothing to be embarrassed about. also its not that what i have done is a secret(was messin with ya there) its that fact that i dont know what the previous owner did to this thing, i only know what i did too it. my trans shifts at 5000 and it shifts at the following: 2nd-40m.p.h. 3rd-65/70m.p.h. and 4th at 110/115 m.ph. thats where im lost, i dont know what he did to it. and there is no shift kit cause its a 4l60E, i was thinkin servos but idn it doesnt feel like he just change the servos. cause if that was case this trans would have went months ago the way i drive it. "30m.p.h. roll it revs till 4500/5000 and dumps it HARD into 1st and starts chirpin the tires then hooks and launchs like a bat out of h*LL. alright thats enough for now

Now you sound more credible to me. Just come in and be honest, nobody is here to ridicule you (unless you ask for it).

yeah i know i just realized that. its just that im highly respect were i come from for the vehicles im building, and i came on here kind of expecting that not realizing that u people have no clue who i am....opps on mybehalf. if u would like to know who i am i will explain further more if any question appear. i come from the streets of metro detroit raised on the underground racing of metro detroit. my current project is a 94 s10 with a syclone motor. we plan on making the fastest s10 in the world. gm is currently running high 7's with there syclone. we are going to try as hard as we can to get this think to beat them. our motor is currently out to katech to be built and by another engine builder in wyoming. then it will come back to be mated with a 3 speed powerglide too a 9inch ford out back. it will boost 30p.s.i. with a (inavative-sp) 82mm turbo. sorry that i dont have all the details on this truck it is a partnership for financial reasons and i havent seen him in a week or so. we have gottin contacted by hotrod on the build of this truck. will try to keep you guys updated if u would like to know.

Speaking on my behalf, the car FREAK that I am, I would like to see that 94 S10 boosting 30 p.s.i. Keep us posted!! ;)

alright im gonna start off this post with some pics so everyone can see my blazer

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also went to the track today will post time tomorrow

alright alright went to the track yesterday. the blazer ran AWESOME!! me on the other hand hahaha wow im soooo disappointed in myself. i staged the first light. went to go start locking up the converter and with so much line pressure i rolled thru the brakes not realizing it looked up once i realized i moved. and i already 2nd staged and the light turned green so basically i launched late and from a idle so F-In horrible. then it spunn them thru first then into second then sqwaked them into third my Reaction time was a .656(i cant believe i did that) my 60ft. was 2.2 and with a 1/4 mile et of 15.8 with 84 miles and hour trap speed. i figure after i take all the tools out of it i had in it and spare tires and perfect my launch with the right tires a should be able to take of an easy .5 second to almost a full second. i will be back there next saturday to get more runs in... plus i will have the gforce's mounted on the blazer then so i can actually hook. tell what u think

Yea 15.8 is ALOT more believable than a low 14. By the way...very nice lookin' truck!

thanks man.. yeah im hopin that i can at least break a 14.9 next saturday... atleast im gonna try like no other hahaha...
better pic of my blazer
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/offroaddude77/27323291365.jpg

yea the 15.8 is more believeable....what else u doing to get that time down?

Yes, a MUCH more believable time.

Now, who goes to the strip and only makes one pass? Even on a packed test/tune night at the 1/4mi track, I'll make atleast 3 passes. On our local 1/8mi track, I'll do more like 6-8 passes.

Why race with additional weight (tools, etc)? That just doesn't make any sense. What tree config did they have for you? Did all 3 amber lights come on at once or did they count down to green?

Also, why load up the TC if you are just going to spin out of the hole? That's kind of like shooting yourself in the foot... If you have enough power to spin them, you don't just mat the throttle and hope it sticks...

And you sleeping at the light will not improve your ET... You RT (reaction time) does not impact your ET (elapsed time). So a horribly slow RT of 0.686sec is just how long it took for you to see the green light, release the brake, and stab the gas. A 2.2sec 60' time isn't a completely bad, but I don't think you'll pick up any more than .3 seconds there. So if the truck ran like it was supposed to after 60', then you can expect to make it down to 15.5sec - 1/4, but I wouldn't expect much lower.

Truck looks nice. Except for the front end it kinda looks like the V8 Lt4 Blazer G.M. did in 1995. How much did you lower it?

why load up the torque convertor??? to preload the suspension. u dont want total load up but 2000 r.p.m. is plenty. also u want to let of the brake and rapidly ease into the throttle. on the 4.3 this seems to help alot. i have the eyebrow out of my intake, so if i just sab it, it will dog all the way but if i launch this way i have lots of vacumn.



o yeah its a 5/4 drop

I do know why you would load up a TC, that wasn't the point of my question. My point was that you are already spinning the tires. Loading the TC will promote that if you can't control the throttle enough to combat it. By loading everything up, if you apply too much power, you'll lose traction - if there is enough power to do so...

Here's a good explaination of automatic launch technique:
From: Modern Racer - Launch Techniques (http://www.modernracer.com/tips/dragracinglaunchtechniques.html)

In general, automatic transmissions are known as being more useful for lazy commuters than for hardcore racers. But it may be surprising for some to know that many pro drag-racing cars have heavy-duty auto gearboxes. That's because the brake-torque launch is an automatic specialty. This launch involves keeping the car stationary by flooring the brakes with the left foot, while using the right foot to rev up the engine against the torque converter. In technical terms, this preloads the entire drivetrain with the stress of a launch, allowing the engine to rev closer to its power and torque peaks at the starting line. Brake-torquing is also beneficial for turbocharged engines as it allows boost to build up before the launch, reducing turbo lag. The only problem is that there is a lot of stress on the transmission, and the consequent heat build-up can destroy your automatic gearbox. Unless your car has too much power for the tires to handle, a brake-torque launch usually will not spin the wheels. This is because the automatic transmission absorbs the shock by design, and brake-torquing actually reduces stress on the rest of the drivetrain. Instead of a sudden massive load, the drivetrain has the torque applied slower instead of one huge jolt.

So you are preloading the drivetrain, not the suspension. If you are spinning the tires, you need to either increase the tire's contact patch with the ground for more traction, or decrease your pre-launch rpm.

And good luck with the 'eyebrow' out of your intake... Unless you have increased the diameter of the MAF, you aren't gaining anything. I have run with mine out and have noticed a lean condition on the rear cylinders because of the concentration of EGR gasses in the front cylinders. The 'eyebrow' promotes even distribution of the EGR gasses. The only thing that removing the 'eyebrow', as you call it, will do is increase the off idle throttle response. WOT is limited by the associated sizes of other components in the intake path.

*EDIT* - Here's another very good quote for you:
If you're at the track for the first time and if you're trying to simply establish the baseline performance of your vehicle, forget about trying to cut a good light. It's simply too much for most beginners to work on both their reaction time and launch techniques at the same time, so don't be afraid to leave a second or so after the green light comes on. Your reaction time will suck, but the reaction time is not factored into the elapsed time. Only once the car can be launched perfectly each time and every time should one start worrying about cutting good lights (or beating the guy in the other lane, for that matter).

wow, i leave for another few days and i miss a heated debate... I don't know what my blazer runs in the quarter and i don't really care. It wasn't meant to be a drag racer. I go more for the rugged, muddin look in SUV's and trucks. 15.8 sounds a lot better than low 14's...and i really thought someone was kiddin with all that 14 sec talk. And try to run more than one pass. take everything out, which includes but is not limited to tools, spare tire, college books. And try to arrive at the track with like a 1/4 tank of gas or less, so you can cut the weight down...good luck

alright im pretty much giving up on this thing it weighs to d*mn much. it feels soooo strong and then i run it and yeah lol. on a side note its an awsome bracket racer. consistent as a mofo. lol
heres the best of saturday

e/t: 15.70
trap speed: 87
60': 2.13

it ran a 15.70 almost evey pass no matter what we did. I also got so many compliments on it. all the track officals where saying it was fast for a 4.3. o well. it was fun goin to the track anyways. and so forth i am finishing my exhaust on it and i am done with it. its an awsome dd.

Hush lil' babies.... hehehe

now now... this is like the animals fighting over territory here.... i'm going to lock this one cause i can see this turning slightly ugly. If you think I am wrong, please just PM me.

~Dory