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FImports
12-08-2006, 10:52 PM
is it a good product for your truck.seats and so on

nofear17bmx
12-08-2006, 11:03 PM
I take it you have leather? There are plenty of other better products, but for the price of black magic its not bad. I personally dont use it, my friend does and it works for him.

a_tack
12-09-2006, 01:57 AM
meguiars makes some really good stuff.....

mikeywaynebygod
12-09-2006, 11:12 AM
black magic is great. i use it on my mirrors and such. makes'em all shiny :Þ

Blazerx85
02-06-2007, 03:43 PM
Black magic with leave a little grease which may stain any white cloths that may come in contact. Anything like mirrors and so on great use it all the time but like post above there is alot better stuff out there.

kerander
05-06-2007, 11:25 AM
What do you suggest instead?

rabbit0102030
05-07-2007, 07:29 AM
Meguiars Gold Class products are good. You can try the Armor All wipes, I have found them to be alot less messy than the spray bottle. Meguiars is expensive compared to Armor All though, but if you don't mind spending extra money then go for it.

blazerlt01
05-07-2007, 08:27 PM
black magic is good but i've found that meguiars is prob the best

EuroGoldLS
05-08-2007, 09:12 AM
I like Son of a Gun for the interior. It is about the same as armor-all andit is a lotcheaper. As far as outside stuff goes, I use Duragloss black dressing. It will last through a wash.

The best that I have used so far is Ibiz leather and vinyl sheen. The Ibiz is my favorite because it doesn't rise up onto the windsheild in hot weather.

Peco
05-08-2007, 03:52 PM
BLACK MAGIC FTW - been using it the past 11 years and love it! Yes it does attract some dust but a swipe with a clean towel and it's gone. I use it on the in and ex trior of my autos and anyone elses car or truck I detail. You only have to go over your auto once a year if that and you have a nicegloss finish all year. Some people my not like the gloss finish it leaves but I do. Also Armor-All is known to cause your interior to crack over the years. Meguiars I've never tried so not good or bad to say about it.

TheBrettster
05-09-2007, 12:07 AM
Bah i just a 5 gallon bucket from the local detail shop. It works the best, also smells like bubble gum. I also use a stuff that comes in a blue bucket i forget the name but its silicone base and works very well.

rabbit0102030
05-09-2007, 07:09 AM
Yeah, I'm real sure you spend that much money to have 5 gallon buckets full of dressings that it will take you 5 years to use just sitting around the garage. :eek:

TheBrettster
05-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Nope i do detailing plus i got it when i worked at Tiffany Coach Works so i got a killer deal.That 5 gallon lasts me about 6 months.

Here is the link http://www.allbritecarcareproducts.com/Main.asp

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rabbit0102030
05-10-2007, 08:11 AM
ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

Nope i do detailing plus i got it when i worked at Tiffany Coach Works so i got a killer deal.That 5 gallon lasts me about 6 months.



Doesn't really matter, the point is, the person asking the question is not a detailer. He wanted to know what product is good to use, not where he can get a bulk supply. I detail my truck every week and it takes me 4 months to run through a 16 oz. bottle. So I seriously doubt that he wants to pay for a 5 gallon bucket that he will never get rid of.

TheBrettster
05-10-2007, 10:03 AM
Well you dont have to buy bulk from them, they sell quarts. I just stated that because that stuff is so i good i stock up on it because i use it alot, sorry i should leave that out next time if its causing people to get upset. Lets try to focus on the thread.

FImports- I use the prlc dressing from them and it works extremely well. Its doesn't leave a greasey feel to it like Armor All and maguires and you cant put it on plastic , tires , leather etc. so you get more bang for your buck.

rabbit0102030
05-10-2007, 12:43 PM
Nobody is getting upset here, so chill. All I'm saying is that there are much better alternatives to what you are suggesting. It doesn't matter what size they sell in, they have expensive product, and he would have to wait for shipping. He could easily go to a local store and purchase one of the aforementioned products, and have it the same day. There is nothing wrong with Armor All, yes it is greasy if yiu use too much, but it works as well as anything. Since you are a "detailer" I figure you would know that when you use too much dressing it will cause this greasiness or overshine. Did you read my write up on detailing where I specifically state that less is more when it comes to interior dressings?

Armor All- Inexpensive, does not cause cracks (don't know where you heard that), not an appealing scent, can be greasy when overapplied

Black Magic- mid-expensive, pleasant cherry scent, very small amount goes a long way

Meguiars- Expensive, very pleasant smell, long lasting shine when applied correctly to a clean surface

That is pretty much how they break down, but mainly it is just a matter of opinion, all personal preference. I prefer Meg's, but I used to prefer Black Magic, Meg's just came out with better products and improvements in my opinion.

TheBrettster
05-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Well your comming off being very condescending, and i dont like armorall on rubber cause it does make it grease no matter how much you use of it. Plus over time it tends to destory plastic dashes. Its happened to me before on my astro van, google armor problems you will find tons of problems people are having. at the time i did.

Import - if you dont like to order stuff then i would go witht he gold class interior protectant, it works extremely well with leather and plastic/vinyl.

rabbit0102030
05-10-2007, 02:52 PM
ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

Well your comming off being very condescending, and i dont like armorall on rubber cause it does make it grease no matter how much you use of it. Plus over time it tends to destory plastic dashes. Its happened to me before on my astro van, google armor problems you will find tons of problems people are having. at the time i did.



YOU don't like Armor All. Not everyone else, that isYOUR opinion. Dressings will not be greasy if you apply them liberaly, you can argue that with me until you are blue in the face, but it won't change the simple fact that it is all in your application of the product. I have never heard of a dash being destroyed by a product intended to protect it. You had a problem with it one time, and I don't remember saying that I preferred Armor All in the first place. If Armor All was destroying dashes left and right thenit wouldn't still be available.

As for me being condescending, I'm not, I just know what I'm talking about. I don't mod this section because I was sitting in the last seat when the music stopped. I happen to have an extensive background in detailing, paint, and body. My truck is my proof. You tend to think that since you are or were a detailer that everyone around you knows about all the detailers secrets, and can perform them for another matter. I don't think that way. I give everday people who most likely don't have a background in detailing or paint and body work, everyday information or reccomendations based upon what the everyday person can perform and buy in the store.

Now, let us please get back to the topic at hand.

swartlkk
05-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Me, I don't like armor-all because of the shine it produces... Armor All destroying dashes is a myth.

I just dust my dash and every once in awhile I'll use some meguiar's on a rag... I can't stand shine though...

I've never used black magic... I have bounced between turtle wax, meguiar's, and mothers for the last 15 years. They all have their merits. I will never by mass quantities of a product because I tend to use one thing for a year or so, then switch to something different just to try it out.

rabbit0102030
05-10-2007, 03:39 PM
I agree with you there Kyle. I tend to lean to Meg's because it has more of a satiny finish rather than the gloss you get from Armor All, and can you believe they make an extra glossy formula too?! I used to like having the gloss thing going on, but it just attracts to much dust for my taste.

Peco
05-23-2007, 05:00 PM
Armor All- Inexpensive, does not cause cracks (don't know where you heard that), not an appealing scent, can be greasy when overapplied
I know for a fact, when I 1st started detailing I always used Armor All and 3 years down the line my dash started to crack andmy tires got dry rot!

rabbit0102030
05-24-2007, 10:31 AM
There is absolutely no proof that AA cracks dashes. Improper maintenance and poor quality dash materials most likely cause a dash to crack. This thread is about whether or not you like Black Magic protectant or what other protectant you suggest if you don't like Black Magic. Get back to the topic at hand, or I will lock this thread.