EuroGoldLS
03-18-2007, 11:24 PM
I want your opinion on what you think is the best wax.
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View Full Version : What is the best wax? EuroGoldLS 03-18-2007, 11:24 PM I want your opinion on what you think is the best wax. swartlkk 03-18-2007, 11:27 PM Turtle Wax ICE isn't really a wax, it is a paint protectant and a VERY good, long lasting one at that, but it doesn't fill in the fine scratches like a wax does. I have ICE on my Bravada right now and it is SO easy to wash that truck right now it isn't even funny. A simple wash and dry makes the truck look like the day that I applied the ICE way back before winter. As far as waxes go, it was a difficult choice between Gold Class & NXT from Meguiar's, both in paste form. I ultimately have to choose NXT because on my Bonneville they both provided the same shine and equal life, but the NXT was SO much easier to apply & remove. Jman 03-19-2007, 12:31 AM I can't vote on this as I haven't tried most of them. But what I am going to do is try the winning vote. lol rabbit0102030 03-19-2007, 11:52 AM Gotta go with NXT, in combination with ICE as a touch up, it's unbeatable IMO anyaway. EuroGoldLS 03-19-2007, 06:09 PM There is Ice wax and paint protectant, I saw it at Autozone today. swartlkk 03-19-2007, 06:41 PM I'm speaking from experience using ICE. It is not a wax as typical waxes are defined by their constituant parts. It is more like Liquid Glass than any other wax that I have used. It is a polish/protectant, not a true wax. Source: Turtlewax website - Turtle Wax® ICEâ„¢ is a clear wax formulated with completely new technology that blends silicone and hydrocarbon polymers to provide extraordinary shine and durability. Now they state that it is a clear wax, but being made of blended silicone and hydrocarbon polymers, I'd call it more of a paint protectant than a wax. It is very comparable to Liquid Glass. The main reason why I say it isn't in my definition of a wax is because it does not fill slight imperfections in the paint (ie. swirl marks) like a typical wax will. Now given it's polishing properties, it will tend to remove some of the very slight imperfections, but trust me on dark paint (all I have is black), it does not produce the upclose perfection that a true 'wax' will give you. From say 10ft away, they are indistinguishable, but get up close and I can see a definite advantage to NXT wax. One thing that I am interested in trying is the paste form of ICE. lastcoupe 03-19-2007, 09:58 PM Thanks Kyle...I think I'll try the NXT. That black is not forgiving at all is it? I love the looks when it is spotless, but man everything makes it look dirty... swartlkk 03-19-2007, 11:57 PM Here is my review on TurtleWax ICE: New TurtleWax ICE!!! (http://www.blazerforum.com/m_21412/tm.htm) I'll throw up pictures of my car with Gold Class paste wax as well in a new post in that thread. thegr81 03-20-2007, 01:50 AM by far the liquid clay bar by ice is amazing stuff it stopped my oxidation on the spot brought out the real shine in my paint its so easy too i rinse with cool water then apply the liquid clay bar cause its a car wash and wax in one then after rinse again towel dry the white residue comes through then follow that with the detail spray by ice with a terry towel and man does it shine like no other by far the best ever first time result its good stuff TheBrettster 03-20-2007, 03:11 AM Is the NXT wax that much better than the basic 3 step system ? Zygoat 03-20-2007, 06:43 AM i was really impressed with the eagle one nano wax on my camaro. i had a two tone and it got rid of all the swirl marks and fine scratches really well. i tried it when it first came out it was free with a mail in rebate and you got the applicator and a microfiber cloth. i like it alot and it also smells really nice, ... kinda orangey. swartlkk 03-20-2007, 09:59 AM TheBrettster, I have used quite a few different 3 step products and can say that when a 3 step system is done correctly (very time consuming), I don't think that there are many economical single step products that can beat them. I used to use the 3 step professional line from Meguiar's and that was amazing stuff. Only problem was that it would take me atleast a full day to detail my car when done right. If you have some paint damage (either swirls, bird dropping stains, or sap stains), then a 3 step process is the way to go. However, now with the clay bar, I think that you can get very close to the same results with less time by doing a wash, clay bar, wash, and NXT or Gold Class wax. Zygoat, Eagle One Nano wax is another good wax. It is more of a polymer coating like the NXT wax with very little if any pure carnuba. Like NXT, its application and removal is super easy and it does have a nice depth of shine. One thing that I did not like about it was it's life over a winter. Where the TurtleWax ICE has lasted literally all winter without reapplication of any kind, my experience with Eagle One Nano wax required atleast one reapplication during the winter. The same is true about NXT and Gold Class for that matter. So for me, it's ICE during the winter because of it's durability, but I think I'll stick to clay bar and NXT for the summer! And other than the ICE (freebie), I don't use anything but paste waxes now because of their durability. I'm really looking forward to trying a good clay bar treatment and some of the new ICE paste polish. See how that looks when done. TheBrettster 03-22-2007, 09:40 PM Yea i take a whole day on the outside and about half of a day on the inside. I wash , clay ,wash , 1 , 2 , 3 , buff or use pinnacle souveran. My paint is in perfect condition but the plastic is not much. It has alot of wax build up on it. Whats the trick , i heard an sos pad works wonders. Also its somewhat faded, i want to do something that is going to last. Any ideas ? I went ahead with the two long molding pieces on the rear window, sanded them with cutting gel. bigjsp 03-23-2007, 10:48 PM Mother's carnuba, then detailing spray / quick waxat the shows KOYOTE 04-01-2007, 02:54 PM I've always used Mequires Gold, it is easy to use on and off. Also I've found out make sure that the body is not hot, it goes on and comes off easier when is cool to the touch,do it in a shaded area.I do auto detailing in the summer months out of my garage. Peco 04-01-2007, 04:29 PM ORIGINAL: bigjsp Mother's carnuba, then detailing spray / quick waxat the shows Mothers in my opinon has the best wax! Thats the only thing I use on my car and truck. 2blzers 05-13-2007, 03:53 PM love the turtle wax carnauba. easy on easy off. takes the pain away from waxing your vehicle. much faster won't kill your saturday or sunday!! kerander 05-13-2007, 08:36 PM Anyone use the Klasse twins? I know, they're not wax either, but I keep hearing great things about them. I'm more on the side of the occasional car washes with a "wax" maybe twice a year or so. Not ideal obviously, though people say you can put on the Klasse all in one then several layers of the high gloss and that'll keep it good for a year. rabbit0102030 06-04-2007, 01:32 PM It looks like the overwhelming majority prefers Meguiars NXT Gen. Tech Wax over anything else. Anybody have any comments aboutthe poll leadingwax? Have you used it? What are your likes/dislikes about it? If you haven't voted, get your vote in!!!! swartlkk 06-04-2007, 01:49 PM Weird, I don't think I put an end date on it... I opened it back up. 21 votes is kinda weak. lennyblazer 06-04-2007, 02:58 PM I used turtle carnuba wax on my Taurus SHO and it looked great, then when I got the blazer I used it last summer and now this summer I have switched to Mothers Carnuba Wax. I have to say the shine was better with the Mothers Carnuba Wax. I think I'll have to look into clay baring as I have some swirls and oxidation on my paint. Then a recoat of mothers or maybe I'll try the ICE. just my opinion -Lenny igot10pinitis 06-05-2007, 01:10 AM the detail guy at our shop switched from nxt generation to eagle one nano. That stuff is good. You gotta love the fact you don't get powder all over your ride rabbit0102030 06-05-2007, 10:20 AM That is one of things I like about ICE, no white powder! EuroGoldLS 06-05-2007, 04:34 PM I have actually run across a new synthetic wax that I've never used before, it'sMothers FX. I like it pretty good, haven't used it on the Blazer yet. Anyone used it? igot10pinitis 06-05-2007, 04:37 PM i used it on my blazer 3 weeks ago. ITs good stuff, to me all higher end waxes like that are about the same. Its easy to apply and easy to take off with no powder, thats all i care about! BrianMichaels1 06-14-2007, 09:37 PM Zaino or Tropicare. Zaino it by far better than anything at the local store as is Tropicare. I prefer Tropicare for it's unbelievable depth. Zaino is also amazingly Godly, but is more strictly mirror like and has less depth. If you want to be a nerd like me...Zaino Z-5 for the base layer, Tropicare TC-3 for the second layer, Tropicare TC-10 (I think) Carnuba-based polish for the third layer, Tropicare carnuba paste wax for the forth layer :) 03RedBLazerXtreme 07-25-2007, 10:50 AM I used Turtle wax Ice on my blazer and my pick up... pickup with black paint . and the both shined up better than before............. now when i run my california duster across either one.. just wow...... smooth ~! ForkliftJeff 09-20-2007, 11:33 PM Speaking from a detailers point of view, I try to only use Burford's PRO products. And as to what actual product to use, depends on the condition of the paint. Any questions on any kind of detailing, feel free to ask. I was the head detailer at a shop for 2 years and have been doing it on the side for 12 years. I love detailing, and I will only use the best. Duntov 04-29-2008, 12:40 PM Afterreading this topic, I bought some Meguire's NXT Tech Wax (MGG-12718)and put some on The Blazer early this morning. I really enhanced the shine.IusedMeguire's Fine Cut Cleaner Wax on the Blazer before and now I think I will use Meguire's NXT Tech Wax. At first, I started cursing the NXT Tech Wax because of the swirls it was leaving behind but as I continued to wipe with a cotton towell, the swirls disapeared. MaSmith 07-06-2008, 06:22 PM I started useing Meguiar's Cleaner Wax several years ago. I really like this product. It is easy on and easy off. In the Spring and fall I use Meguiar's Mirror Glaze, then follow up with 2 coats of the cleaner wax. In the middle of the summer I always put one more coat of cleaner wax on it, it seems to last pretty good. Today I cleaned the blazer up, and tried Meguiar's quik wax, out of a spry bottle. Now I don't know how long this will last, but I really liked how it went on and off.Very easy. Duntov 08-31-2008, 11:14 AM ORIGINAL: EuroGoldLS I want your opinion on what you think is the best wax. I hand wax and polish only andIhave tried various Meguiar's cleaner wax, fine cut cleanerand polish products as well asTurtle Wax ICE on my black Blazer with similar results. I was not impressed with either product. Just out of curiosity, I purchased a 16 oz. bottle of Turtle Wax Color MagicT374KTR (black) and it is easy to apply and leave a excellent shine. I am sold on that product. The Turtle Wax Chip Stick that comes withColor Magicdoes a fair job on minor paint chips and "Arizona Pinstripes."I preferthe little Dupli-Color repair paint kit for paint chips.I apply Color Magic with a throw away sponge pad and remove the hazewith a micro-fiber towel when it is completely dry. The I rub it out with the micro-fiber towel for a few more strokes. Turtle Wax offers Color Magic and Color Curein black, silver, white, tan-gold, red, green and blue although I have never seen it it anything but red and black. I have found that Turtle Wax Color Magicwill be a special order at "some"retailers who carry Turtle Wax products. For example, O'Reilly'sand Autozoneoffer Turtle Wax Color Magic in black only and it is a special order. I have never seen any Turtle Wax Color Magic on the shelf of any parts store. Apparently that is because it is not as popular with the hand-wax and polish crowd.It is messy to use if you are not careful and it may create aproblem if you cleanyour micro-fiber towels and spongepads in your washing machine.When usingColor Magic, Iusethe towels and pad until they become saturatedwith the product and then toss them in the trash.Turtle Wax Color Magicalso comes inwhat is called Turtle Wax "Color Cure." I do not know what the difference is between the two products may be. I haveboughtsix 16 oz. bottles of Turtle Wax Color Magic T374KTR (black) because whenever I start likeing something, it is not around for long. Stayaway from the high pressure car wash whatever car care product you use unless you like to wax and polish your car. c5ce 12-30-2008, 04:14 AM They are updating the site, but this is a wonderful carnuba. Three coats and the shimmer is fantastic!! http://formula113.com/index.php Pinnicle is great, too. My personal favorite for a sealer is what they use at the Corvette Museum: http://www.cmagicwax.com/index.html needshocks 01-19-2009, 12:49 PM can you use ice with another wax under it ? blazerguy22 07-02-2009, 04:32 PM NXT FTW altho sadly im out and am stuck using turtle wax and i am NOT happy Sisk 07-02-2009, 06:16 PM holy old post revival...lol. I voted ICE wax though...the stuff is amazing! DadsBlazer02 07-02-2009, 07:00 PM I like the new Meguires NXT tech wax (2.0). When I wash the fleet I'll usually use the NXT paste wax in between detailings, and when I detail the fleet I use the liquid NXT followed by Adam's buttery wax. When I am done, they all shine like they just rolled off the show room floor! The_Beast 07-19-2009, 10:30 PM I always go with the Meguiar's Gold Class liquid wax easy on, easy off and a good shine (and it smells good too) But to be fair it's the only wax I've used so far JJU 08-08-2009, 07:22 AM I would stay away from canauba-based products. The reason is that they only last between 4 & 8 weeks. Carnauba comes from the Cerifera tree. It is dull and brittle. Pure carnuaba is grey in color. Most wax products on the market are typically blended (beeswax & paraffin). All of these waxes start to melt and evaporate around 185 degrees. Paraffin melts at 130 degrees. Dark colored cars can reach a surface temperature exceeding 200 degrees in the summer. Synthetics have a much higher melting and evaporation point. My Blazer is a work-horse. It needs all the protection it can get. hawghunter1 10-08-2009, 07:54 AM Guys Check out Formula 113, I have been using it for over 10 years, it lasts very very long, and there is just not enough words on how great it is. check out the site http://www.formula113.com/Product_line/f113carwax.html oktain 10-08-2009, 08:54 AM I've only ever used Mother's Cleaner Wax with Carnuba in it... Nice shine to it, I waxed it about 2 weeks before the the ROTM during september, and the water still beads like a duck and it still shines nice. BlaziNator 10-08-2009, 01:04 PM I use "Protect All" at Walmart in the RV section...that stuff is amazing. Given, it should not be used on a "show car" car. But it gives a very nice shine, leaves NO residue, and can be applied to trim, chrome, and even the windows. Fast and easy. Great for a DD/4x4. ChevyRoad09 10-12-2009, 05:36 PM I use Meguiar's blajeans 10-25-2009, 09:54 AM Im using the same strategy as TheBrettster, one day fot the outside and one for the inside. Im using Meguiar's product and are really pleased with them. I´ve tried several other manufactures like Sonax, TurtleWax etc. but none of them is as good as Meguiar's. The biggest advantage with Meguiar's is the shine result after waxing ... there is no shine like this. I start up with claying the car, after this I use a cleaner or rubbing if the paint is in bad shape. After this I put a layer of polish that really make the paint looks really shiny and almost wet and for the finish I use Nxt Wax. The cleaner and polish I use is from the 1,2,3 steps series but I changed the wax because I think Nxt is a bit better. This fall Im about to test the Ultimate Compound instead of the Cleaner. Fir the interia I can recommend Heavy Duty Vinyl Cleaner from Meguair´s This procedure is a repeating action twice a year, one in the spring and the second in the fall before the winter is coming. 2002XTREME 10-25-2009, 10:15 AM Speaking of waxing and making paint shine,,, Has anyone ever used Lemon Pledge furniture polish on their veh???? I use it and it works great and doesnt ruin the paint and its takes alot less time to shine it up and it stills beads up in the rain like wax... If anyone is interested in trying it, go ahead theres nuttin to worry about.. I`ll just say if ya dont use the right cloth for it (2) needed you`ll get marks ...... jackdaroofer 11-06-2009, 06:56 PM I use "pledge" (Dollar general has provate label equivalent, much less expensive) on wheel wells, suspension and frame as well as underhood on my vette and it works great. I'll use it same way on new Blazer this weekend PS: it also works great on sealing dusty concrete garage floor/ Vacuum dust up, spray polish liberally and no dust for weeks and weeks GeorgesBlazah 12-05-2009, 11:14 AM Collinite 476s. fightingsioux7 02-23-2010, 11:41 PM All waxing does it put a polish on the clear coat. u gotta use a buffer and compond to heat up your clear coat and fill in all the tiny scraches thats wear your true shine will come from. LuvMyTJ 02-24-2010, 07:20 PM Speaking of waxing and making paint shine,,, Has anyone ever used Lemon Pledge furniture polish on their veh???? I use it and it works great and doesnt ruin the paint and its takes alot less time to shine it up and it stills beads up in the rain like wax... If anyone is interested in trying it, go ahead theres nuttin to worry about.. I`ll just say if ya dont use the right cloth for it (2) needed you`ll get marks ...... I started using Pledge on my bike for quick details when I used to show it. Now I just use it for the lemon fresh scent, JK, I still use it on the bike because it works well. We also used a lot of that stuff when I was a commercial printing press operator to wax the back cylinders. This would prevent the fresh ink from offsetting on the cylinder as it passed between the color heads. ICE (mainly silicone) is only good for show shines... it does not last for nuthin! A good quality carnauba wax is the way to go after it has been clay barred clean. :) bigkhans 02-27-2010, 10:25 PM I am curently in the process of buffing out my blazer. I am using TR3 Resin Glaze made by Blue Magic. It is a cleaner and polish that restores oxidized finishes and leaves a protective shine. It's taking a lot of time but it's worth it. I will post my before and after pics shortly. |