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Old 11-24-2005, 10:51 AM
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Just bought a scanner, AutoXray 6000, updated it to the latest software as soon as it arrived (from 4.0 to 4.02). Thought it was pretty cool all the things it displays on screen for an OBD I system on my 93 Blazer. I have some questions maybe someone on here can answer or point me in the right direction so that I may learn how to interpret the readings.

There are no DTC's. What I'm wanting to know right now is about the lean/rich flag and the Open/Closed Loop system. My question is, should the loop constantly be flipping between open and closed, which coincides with the lean/rich flag tripping. If the flag was rich for more than a second, the system would go in to Open loop, about a second later the lean flag trips and the system goes right in to closed loop. This was constant, every second or two on the way in to town this morning. Is this normal operation?

Last night the OS2 sensor kept flipping between ready and not ready. But this morning, I checked while the loop was alternating and the O2 sensor read "Ready".

My concern is this 1993 Vortec doesn't idle as smooth as my newly acquired 1995 Vortec, and the exhaust smells a tad rich on the 93 in general. Keep in mind I've done plugs, wires, cap, rotor, vacuum lines, injector and nut kit upon buying this 93 a little over 2 months.

 
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:10 PM
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It shouldn't be flipping between open and closed loop. Basically, if it is doing that, it is going from sensor based fuel map (closed loop) to a predetermined fuel map (open loop).

QUOTE: Mike Fahrion - Autotap Newsletter
A lot of factors affect the richness or leanness of the fuel mixture, including air temperature, engine coolant temperature, barometric pressure, throttle position, air flow and engine load. Other sensors monitor these factors too, but the O2 sensor is the master monitor for what’s happening with the fuel mixture. Problems with the O2 sensor can throw the whole system out of whack.

The computer uses the oxygen sensor’s input to fine tune the fuel mixture for the best balance of power, economy and emissions. The engineering term for this type of operation is "closed loop" because the computer is using the O2 sensor’s input to adjust the fuel mixture. The result is a constant flip-flop back and forth from rich to lean which helps the catalytic converter operate at its best and keeps the average fuel mixture in proper balance to minimize emissions. It’s a complicated setup but it works.

If no signal is received from the O2 sensor, like when a cold engine is first started (more on that in a minute) or the 02 sensor fails, the computer orders a steady, rich fuel mixture. This is referred to as "open loop" operation because no input is used from the O2 sensor to fine tune the fuel mixture. If the engine fails to go into closed loop when the O2 sensor reaches operating temperature, or drops out of closed loop because the O2 sensor’s signal is lost, the engine will run too rich causing an increase in fuel consumption and emissions. As you might have guessed, that will set a code and turn on your check engine light.

How does it work? The O2 sensor produces a voltage once it gets hot. The compares how much oxygen is in the exhaust to the oxygen in outside air. The greater the difference, the higher the voltage reading.

If you ever replace an O2 sensor (and if you’re a DIY’er this is something you will do eventually), its important to remember that the O2 sensor needs to “breath” outside air to work. So don’t put any grease on the sensor because it could block this air flow.

An oxygen sensor will typically generate up to about 0.9 volts when the fuel mixture is rich and there is little unburned oxygen left in the exhaust. When the mixture is lean, the sensor’s output voltage will drop down to about 0.1 volts. When the air/fuel mixture is balanced or at the equilibrium point of about 14.7 to 1, the sensor will read around 0.45 volts.

When the computer reads a rich signal from the O2 sensor it leans the fuel mixture to reduce the sensor’s reading. When the O2 sensor reading goes lean the computer reverses again making the fuel mixture go rich. This constant flip-flopping back and forth of the fuel mixture occurs anywhere from 2 to 7 times a second at 2500 rpm on OBDII vehicles, depending on what type of fuel injection system they have.

The oxygen sensor must be hot (about 600 degrees or higher) before it will start to generate a voltage signal. Many oxygen sensors have a small heating element inside to help them reach operating temperature more quickly.

Ok – that was a lot of info on what they do and how they work. The next thing to know is that trouble codes relating to O2 sensors are very common. But you really need investigate further before replacing an O2 sensor just because you got that trouble code. Armed with the information above on how often the O2 sensor “flips” back and forth and AutoTap or another scantool that allows you to monitor O2 sensor voltage, you can be certain whether the O2 sensor itself is really the problem. These sensors can be pricey, so don’t just replace them the first time you see that trouble code!
I don't know if your auto-x-ray can graph the sensor output... I would have to see the O2 se
 
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:35 PM
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Thanks for the info.

As for graphing, I believe the included software will convert the data to a graph. I'm brand new to it so it may take a bit to figure out. I'll check out all the grounds first though.

After reading the article you provided, the voltages seem in line with what I'm reading for the O2 sensor voltage, this vehicle only has the one O2 sensor.
 
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