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Old 12-08-2010, 10:37 AM
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I don't have any of the testers I need to pull that off. Do I have to go to a dealer to get the codes pulled? I assume I need to pull it off the TCCM...

I don't know if I mentioned, but I do hear the clicks when I push the 4-HI button, just no 4X4. I did check all the pins on the TCCM and on the encoder plug-in. Everything looks good, no corrosion, everything is straight I cleaned all the pins with alcohol, even the switch pins, just to be safe..

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Old 12-08-2010, 10:43 AM
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With the NV233 (3-button) system, all it takes is a paper clip to pull the codes...
 
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:30 PM
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How???
 
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did you read the links he posted?
 
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:31 AM
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OK, I did read the links. The diagnostic plug in only has 6 actual pins in it. I tried jumping both wires that were orange and had no flashing to indicate a code was present.
 
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Here is a pinout of the DLC:


You need to connect pin 13 to ground as stated in the first link I posted above. Since ground is present at pin 5 (just above pin 13), you can simply insert a paper clip between the two pins. Then observe the 4wd switch lights.

Pin 16 is battery voltage, do not ground this wire or you will pop the CIG fuse.
 
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:38 AM
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Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding.. Did the test the right way.
When I turn the key, all the lights come on. After about 2 seconds all the lights go off. No flashing and the light for the mode I'm in goes off too. Any ideas?
 
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At this point, you either get the appropriate tools to diagnose the problem (multimeter & test light - also must learn how to use them properly), start the shotgun approach to vehicle repair (i.e. just start replacing components), or take it to someone to get it fixed.
 
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:59 AM
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OK, thanks. I guess I'll start with the encoder motor..
It seems the most likely suspect.
 
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:56 AM
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Well after re-thinking what I've done and learned here, I took another look at some things. I took the actuator cable loose from both the axle and actuator. The cable moves freely as it should. I think the problem is with the shift fork. It moves inside the housing but only about 3/8 of an inch. Using a little logic, it would seem to have to move about the same as the actuator cable does when engaged. Question is, could it be stuck a little or is there something broken in the extention tube?

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