Big problem with timing
#31
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I already make timing but without unscrew spark plug in cylinder #1 and I didn't check if the cylinder in TDC I just make the mark in new harmonic balancer inline their place that should be in and I remove the distributor cap and I see that the needel on rotor inline with number #6 but when I start the car whole engine jerk and it smoke with fuel smell and the engine light come on then I bring my OBD II I get this code P1345
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I already make timing but without unscrew spark plug in cylinder #1 and I didn't check if the cylinder in TDC I just make the mark in new harmonic balancer inline their place that should be in and I remove the distributor cap and I see that the needel on rotor inline with number #6 but when I start the car whole engine jerk and it smoke with fuel smell and the engine light come on then I bring my OBD II I get this code P1345
First clear the P1345 code with the scanner and then attempt to start again. If P1345 comes back, you definitely do not have the distributor in correctly - see below. If P1345 does not come back, then you have the distributor in on the right tooth and we can look elsewhere for your problem.
If P1345 does comes back, you will need to install the distributor correctly. Pull #1 spark plug and stick your finger over the hole while someone else taps the starter (the smallest amount possible each tap). Stop tapping the starter as soon as you feel compression blow your finger off the hole. Turn the balancer clockwise (as you stand in front looking at the engine) until the first time the timing marks on the balancer line up with timing marks on the timing cover. Now check where the rotor is pointing and correct if necessary.
Please try this and advise
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It is unclear to me if the engine actually starts and runs by itself (even if it misses and smokes).
First clear the P1345 code with the scanner and then attempt to start again. If P1345 comes back, you definitely do not have the distributor in correctly - see below. If P1345 does not come back, then you have the distributor in on the right tooth and we can look elsewhere for your problem.
If P1345 does comes back, you will need to install the distributor correctly. Pull #1 spark plug and stick your finger over the hole while someone else taps the starter (the smallest amount possible each tap). Stop tapping the starter as soon as you feel compression blow your finger off the hole. Turn the balancer clockwise (as you stand in front looking at the engine) until the first time the timing marks on the balancer line up with timing marks on the timing cover. Now check where the rotor is pointing and correct if necessary.
Please try this and advise
First clear the P1345 code with the scanner and then attempt to start again. If P1345 comes back, you definitely do not have the distributor in correctly - see below. If P1345 does not come back, then you have the distributor in on the right tooth and we can look elsewhere for your problem.
If P1345 does comes back, you will need to install the distributor correctly. Pull #1 spark plug and stick your finger over the hole while someone else taps the starter (the smallest amount possible each tap). Stop tapping the starter as soon as you feel compression blow your finger off the hole. Turn the balancer clockwise (as you stand in front looking at the engine) until the first time the timing marks on the balancer line up with timing marks on the timing cover. Now check where the rotor is pointing and correct if necessary.
Please try this and advise
but I want to ask you small question can this code cause by incorrect match injectors with their place in plenum? because at same time I changed them and I work on it at night so, I'm not sure if the injector in their correct place.
thank you Les Myer
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Today I try to delete it and start it but the light come on again P1345
but I want to ask you small question can this code cause by incorrect match injectors with their place in plenum? because at same time I changed them and I work on it at night so, I'm not sure if the injector in their correct place.
thank you Les Myer
but I want to ask you small question can this code cause by incorrect match injectors with their place in plenum? because at same time I changed them and I work on it at night so, I'm not sure if the injector in their correct place.
thank you Les Myer
https://blazerforum.com/forum/diagno...plained-35138/
I just want to make certain that the P1345 code is not left over from previous work. You need to turn the key on, clear the code, verify that the code is cleared, and then see if your vehicle will set P1345 again when cranking.
So where did the rotor point after pulling the #1 spark plug, feeling compression, and putting engine on TDC#1 by lining up the marks on the balancer with the marks on the timing cover? I need you do this and answer before I go any further.
Last edited by LesMyer; 09-27-2018 at 07:39 AM.
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P1345 tells that the camshaft position sensor in the distributor does not correlate with the crankshaft position. This happens when the distributor is not installed correctly and is 1 or more tooth off the correct position. Injector position has nothing to do with P1345.
https://blazerforum.com/forum/diagno...plained-35138/
I just want to make certain that the P1345 code is not left over from previous work. You need to turn the key on, clear the code, verify that the code is cleared, and then see if your vehicle will set P1345 again when cranking.
So where did the rotor point after pulling the #1 spark plug, feeling compression, and putting engine on TDC#1 by lining up the marks on the balancer with the marks on the timing cover? I need you do this and answer before I go any further.
https://blazerforum.com/forum/diagno...plained-35138/
I just want to make certain that the P1345 code is not left over from previous work. You need to turn the key on, clear the code, verify that the code is cleared, and then see if your vehicle will set P1345 again when cranking.
So where did the rotor point after pulling the #1 spark plug, feeling compression, and putting engine on TDC#1 by lining up the marks on the balancer with the marks on the timing cover? I need you do this and answer before I go any further.
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Great, just want to make sure you don't have the distributor 180° out of position. Distributor turns once per two revolutions of the crankshaft.
Only ways to tell are 1) to feel compression or 2) make sure both valves are closed. Feeling compression is easier.
Only ways to tell are 1) to feel compression or 2) make sure both valves are closed. Feeling compression is easier.
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Today I work on it and I put cylinder at TDC and then aligned the mark at the harmonic balancer where should aligned but I still unbolt the distributor and I think it need one teeth off but I want
to see if you also see that the rotor need to make one teeth or not
thank you
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I'm really trying to help but it seems that maybe English is a second or third language for you, and this may be causing problems.
I cannot see any timing marks in your first photo in post #36.
The rotor in your second photo in post #37 is pointing exactly at the 6 cast in the distributor housing.
You did not say if you removed the spark plug and checked for compression while tapping the starter.
Please refer to the link in post #2 of this thread and click on the button to expand the instructions - read and understand them all - this is the best instructions I have ever seen. Locate the two timing marks on your timing cover (I can see that you have them in your first photo in post #12). Tap the starter until you feel compression at #1 spark plug hole. Now continue to turn engine until the two marks on your balancer line up with the two marks on the timing cover. Now look at where the rotor is pointing and report.
I cannot see any timing marks in your first photo in post #36.
The rotor in your second photo in post #37 is pointing exactly at the 6 cast in the distributor housing.
You did not say if you removed the spark plug and checked for compression while tapping the starter.
Please refer to the link in post #2 of this thread and click on the button to expand the instructions - read and understand them all - this is the best instructions I have ever seen. Locate the two timing marks on your timing cover (I can see that you have them in your first photo in post #12). Tap the starter until you feel compression at #1 spark plug hole. Now continue to turn engine until the two marks on your balancer line up with the two marks on the timing cover. Now look at where the rotor is pointing and report.
Last edited by LesMyer; 09-28-2018 at 02:41 PM.
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I'm really trying to help but it seems that maybe English is a second or third language for you, and this may be causing problems.
I cannot see any timing marks in your first photo in post #36.
The rotor in your second photo in post #37 is pointing exactly at the 6 cast in the distributor housing.
You did not say if you removed the spark plug and checked for compression while tapping the starter.
Please refer to the link in post #2 of this thread and click on the button to expand the instructions - read and understand them all - this is the best instructions I have ever seen. Locate the two timing marks on your timing cover (I can see that you have them in your first photo in post #12). Tap the starter until you feel compression at #1 spark plug hole. Now continue to turn engine until the two marks on your balancer line up with the two marks on the timing cover. Now look at where the rotor is pointing and report.
I cannot see any timing marks in your first photo in post #36.
The rotor in your second photo in post #37 is pointing exactly at the 6 cast in the distributor housing.
You did not say if you removed the spark plug and checked for compression while tapping the starter.
Please refer to the link in post #2 of this thread and click on the button to expand the instructions - read and understand them all - this is the best instructions I have ever seen. Locate the two timing marks on your timing cover (I can see that you have them in your first photo in post #12). Tap the starter until you feel compression at #1 spark plug hole. Now continue to turn engine until the two marks on your balancer line up with the two marks on the timing cover. Now look at where the rotor is pointing and report.
What is the best method to set it properly?





