I need help brainstorming crank no start
#91
02-26-2020, 07:00 PM
Ok guys I got a new (3rd) stater lol this time I'm going to keep the fuel relay removed so it lets me crank and test only the spark. until I see a nice spark sequence because when I add the fuel relay it does all that kick back,pop,lock and blow out from the intake breaking the starter lol
When I get a chance i will do the test your proposing with jumping abtooth forward or 2 forard and backwards from the 6. I just tried it again still don't have my ark spark tester its on its way but im using the one I showed here with it lighting up when theres spark and only spark one or two times then crank ,crank and I don't see it light up.I remove again the coil wire and I see the orange consistent spark about 1/2 jump non stop. Coil is new havent touched the ICM.
I also tested the power to the coil and traced it to the fuse block and tested it on the on position (i get 12v) and while cranking( I get 11v) I did look it up and it suppose to have 12v so I jumpered from a solid 12v to that fuse and no change still no consistent spark at the #1 just sometimes a small blink.
When I get a chance i will do the test your proposing with jumping abtooth forward or 2 forard and backwards from the 6. I just tried it again still don't have my ark spark tester its on its way but im using the one I showed here with it lighting up when theres spark and only spark one or two times then crank ,crank and I don't see it light up.I remove again the coil wire and I see the orange consistent spark about 1/2 jump non stop. Coil is new havent touched the ICM.
I also tested the power to the coil and traced it to the fuse block and tested it on the on position (i get 12v) and while cranking( I get 11v) I did look it up and it suppose to have 12v so I jumpered from a solid 12v to that fuse and no change still no consistent spark at the #1 just sometimes a small blink.
#92
02-26-2020, 08:01 PM
I have a quick question I want to rule out my cables (which are new) and was wondering if I put the rotor aiming at the #1 piston and with out crancking just toggles the data on the ICM to make it spark that way it stays at #1 would this be a good test that aleast my path from coil to plug is ok?
Another question so when I don't have someone to crank for me.... can I leave the key in the ON position and crank by jumping the starter relay? I've been doing it like this and it works but want to make sure I'm not over looking something.
Another question so when I don't have someone to crank for me.... can I leave the key in the ON position and crank by jumping the starter relay? I've been doing it like this and it works but want to make sure I'm not over looking something.
George
#94
02-26-2020, 08:03 PM
George
#95
02-26-2020, 08:05 PM
Ok guys I got a new (3rd) stater lol this time I'm going to keep the fuel relay removed so it lets me crank and test only the spark. until I see a nice spark sequence because when I add the fuel relay it does all that kick back,pop,lock and blow out from the intake breaking the starter lol
When I get a chance i will do the test your proposing with jumping abtooth forward or 2 forard and backwards from the 6. I just tried it again still don't have my ark spark tester its on its way but im using the one I showed here with it lighting up when theres spark and only spark one or two times then crank ,crank and I don't see it light up.I remove again the coil wire and I see the orange consistent spark about 1/2 jump non stop. Coil is new havent touched the ICM.
I also tested the power to the coil and traced it to the fuse block and tested it on the on position (i get 12v) and while cranking( I get 11v) I did loo
k it up and it suppose to have 12v so I jumpered from a solid 12v to that fuse and no change still no consistent spark at the #1 just sometimes a small blink.
When I get a chance i will do the test your proposing with jumping abtooth forward or 2 forard and backwards from the 6. I just tried it again still don't have my ark spark tester its on its way but im using the one I showed here with it lighting up when theres spark and only spark one or two times then crank ,crank and I don't see it light up.I remove again the coil wire and I see the orange consistent spark about 1/2 jump non stop. Coil is new havent touched the ICM.
I also tested the power to the coil and traced it to the fuse block and tested it on the on position (i get 12v) and while cranking( I get 11v) I did loo
k it up and it suppose to have 12v so I jumpered from a solid 12v to that fuse and no change still no consistent spark at the #1 just sometimes a small blink.
Do you have an oscilloscope and a high voltage probe?
George
#96
02-26-2020, 10:30 PM
If you look at this bid at 12:20 thats what I did with a similar probe.
This is similar to my probe
#97
02-26-2020, 10:40 PM
#98
02-26-2020, 10:53 PM
I don't have an oscilloscope or the old schood time gun the gun I msy be able to rent.
Last edited by Blaze305; 02-26-2020 at 10:56 PM.
#100
02-27-2020, 08:00 AM
great the balancer has a key so can I use the key as a mark to set tdc and align the distributer (this would be easier than skipping teeth advancing and retarding the distributor to get lucky and find that the balancer slipped or maybe I just need to get a new balancer right away.