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Old 03-02-2011, 06:47 PM
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Yesterday I replaced cap/rotor/wires and plugs including the secondary air pump. Now ever since I did both of those tasks, I am getting a cylinder #1 misfire. I only had one code prior to that and it was the airpump.

It idles fine in neutral, but in forward or reverse the rpms fluctuate between (according to my laptop)590 and 690rpm. It seems just a tad sluggish when taking off, but as the RPM's increase past(2500+) it seems to run fine.

BTW, removing the #3 plug was easier to do than replacing the wireset.
 
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:16 PM
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Check the plug wire routing:

 
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:57 AM
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Yep, checked and double checked.

If it was vacuum leak related, would it throw a random misfire?


I took the truck to work tonight 13 miles one way, and had my laptop running the whole trip. Not one single instance of a misfire. On the way home, same thing, no misfire. The engine continues to idle erratically and miss up through the RPM range.

Reminder, none of this happened prior to the tune up and smog pump replacement.
 
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What brand of parts did you use?
Part numbers?
 
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:38 PM
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Rotor-Duralast DR975
Cap-Duralast DR978
Wireset-Duralast 4669
Plugs-Autolite 605's
Smogpump-Dorman 306-020
 
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:52 PM
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Couple of things to check:

Fuel pressure and leakdown...key ON, engine OFF, fuel pump running... pressure must be 60psi to 66psi and must remain above 55psi for 10 minutes after the fuel pump shuts off.

These engines are very particular when it comes to secondary ignition parts. The wires and air injection reaction pump are probably ok however, I would suggest AC Delco plugs #41-993 with a gap of .060" and an AC Delco cap and rotor. Make sure you put a dab of silicone dielectric grease on each terminal, inside and out, of the cap. Ask the boys at Autozone if you can upgrade to the good/right stuff.
 
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i just had the same problem about a week ago when doing a tuneup, the problem ended up that 1 of the plugs i got from the shop had a hairline crack in the ceramic/porcelin whatever u wanna call it.....check into that for sure sounds like the same issue to me let me know when u check it out
 
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Ok, thanks for the help guys. Probably won't be able to look at it again for a couple more days till my weekend(12 hour shifts).
 
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Found the culprit....


#1 sparkplug cracked.


Going back to Autozone and get a replacement tomorrow. I stuck one of the older ones back in and it runs MUCH better, and no longer throwing a misfire code.
 
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glad to see you figured that out
 


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