im looking to upgrade my speakers, currently have one working which sucks by the way! so my question is what should i go with, components or full range. im sure this has been answered already but im askin anyways. i plan on getting 4x6's for the dash also. i have 2 kenwood 1200 watt subs running off a kenwood 1000w amp w/ pioneer hu. im thinking of cutting a hole above the front door speakers, it looks like a good spot for it but thats a project for another day. for now i want to run 6 speakers so its givin me a headache thinking of how to do it. any comments would be a great help

 

Why do you want to run so many speakers? One good set of components will get plenty loud, be easier to run, and won't sound like a muddled mess. Running multiple speakers plays hell with imaging and sound stage, not to mention problems with reflections and cancellations.

I would recommend getting one good set of components and a two channel amp. Then concentrate your efforts on making sure the installation is as good as you can manage it. Building a set of baffles to mount the speakers in, installing some sound deadening, and otherwise ensuring you've got as good an installation of the speakers with some good clean power running them will walk right over any of the other options you're thinking about.

 

Couldnt of said it any better...Im running a set of JL Audio C5 components and thats it. Set the front stage nicely and cannot be any happier.

 

A decent 3way setup would be good to. Not trying to be an *** but you dont have enough bass in your truck to warrant so many speakers

 

thanx for helping, ya im not to bass crazy but i do plan on getting new subs down the road,im content with it for now. this is where i hope to put the new speaker. so ill have to in the door. ive never fiber-glassed before so i think im gonna put mdf spacer there for clearance and maybe a baffle. i dont want to go all crazy because ive never done any modifications before.

 

i have Scoushe HD 4inch speakers in my dash, and pioneer 3 ways in my doors, running off the HU. and Primus 6.5's that were in the back doors when i got it. the rear speakers run off a Rockford Amp. And i also have 2 12's running off the amp alos. Sounds AWESOME. I'mm all about SQ.

 

I'm warning everyone now, I'm going to sound like a complete and total dick here, but I feel that what I have to say needs to be said. I see a lot of audio terminology getting misused on a lot of forums.



All about SQ? I don't believe you know SQ at all. Your description of your equipment in your truck says to me that it's a distortion emitting mess with no sense of imaging or sound stage and a sound so unbalanced it wrecks the very purpose of listening to music in the first place.

Please believe me when I say that I'm truly SORRY to say that, I know it was harsh. I'm certain it does sound "awesome" to you and your friends like it too, but that doesn't mean that you or your friends know what really does sound "awesome" or what SQ really means. Sounding "awesome" to you is what counts, I just want to clarify why it's not SQ.

All that really boils down to is that the knowledge and experience to understand what imaging, sound stage, dealing with response issues, and REAL SQ means and how to properly pick speakers, properly install them and utilize the aforementioned knowledge and experience to execute a real SQ install hasn't been attained. That's fine, we ALL have a lot to learn. My systems are by NO means perfect or even close examples of what true SQ is. I've listened to many real SQ systems, studied the hell out of every bit of information I can find on the subject and I understand what it really is and I'm striving (within my knowledge, experience and budget) to attain similar results. So far I feel I've managed to attain a fair level of SQ, but I'm still far from where I want to be and even farther from what it truly is.

That said, it's hard for me to sit back after reading a few of your most recent posts in this section and not say something when you tout knowing SQ. In the thread on the ZR2 Bose question you stated that the Bose system was a joke because it turned the bass down as you turned up the volume and because of the paper cones. I've seen new aftermarket HU's do the exact same thing, it's nothing new or done strictly by Bose. It's the WRONG way to eliminate distortion, I don't like it, but a person can't rule out a piece of equipment on something like that alone. However, paper cones are to this day still one of the absolute BEST materials for speaker cones due to the natural damping and acoustics properties of the material. Many of the considered "BEST" (I use that term as a loose generalization because there is no BEST anything) speakers in the world still use paper cones. Fi Car Audio, for example, builds some of the worlds most awarded subwoofers that carry a plethora of awards from all major competition sanctioning bodies in recent years. They use paper cones on every one of them. Many of the "best" reviewed speakers by companies like Seas, Scanspeak, Morel, JBL, Fostex, Aura, Focal, Aurum Cantus, Dynavox, Peerless and many, many others utilize paper cones. Just as many by the same companies also use materials such as carbon fiber, aluminum, magnesium, and ceramic cones as well, but every material has it's pros and cons. Knowing all about SQ means knowing the differences and understanding how to utilize the driver to achieve your goal while mitigating those cons. It means knowing how to match every tweeter, midrange, woofer and subwoofer for the smoothest and most realistic response. It means understanding the challenges presented by the application and locations you plan on using each of those drivers in and how to adjust for anomalies caused by cancellations, reflections, and other response wrecking issues.

There's so much more that can be said. Again, I'm sorry to have done this. I just wanted to make sure that you, the OP and anyone else who reads in this section understands that SQ should not be a term that gets tossed around lightly unless the real meaning is indeed understood. Too many people, on too many forums get misinformed all too often because a person who didn't really understand how bad their information was to begin with.