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Hello everybody

I have a question for you all . If you are a bachelor graduated engineer and you apply for a quality control engineer job but after 3 days the industrial company let you work as helper include cleaning the workshop floor and lifting the heavy items and you continue do this for 1 months and ongoing.

What you will do ?

Your question is a bit unclear. I think you're unhappy with the situation?

For myself, what I would do if working in an unhappy position is keep working hard while also looking for a better position. In my experience hard work is often valued and rewarded, but if your current company doesn't want to do that, then someone else will do so. I've always been of the opinion that I need a job to earn money in order to survive. A bad job is an ok stopgap until I secure a better more favourable job. I've done this a number of times in my several decades in the workforce.

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Yes exactly , I am unhappy with the situation because they told me first in interview you will work in quality control and we will give you office in our company but everything's changed when I started my third day work they place me in the workshop and they told me go and search for technicians to teach you about how the work is done . Then I am surprised because no one accept to teach me especially the practical. So, I try to search in the web about the things I see in workshop and then I write the information in my notebook. The supervisor in workshop told me you shouldn't work with the technicians and you shouldn't bring notebook we are not in school then he start giving me these works (cleaning workshop floor, bringing the wrenches and tools to the technicians, organize bolts in the shelf....... etc). And after 1 month I discovered that I am the only one in workshop who hold a bachelor degree and work as a helper. When I talked with the manager about the situation he told me you should work here as a helper and do everything that supervisor ask you to do because you don't have experience you are freshly graduated engineer. We will shift you to quality control only if we notice that you learned everything about the work done by the technicians. When I told him that the technicians not accept to teach me he say no all ours technicians will teach you if you ask but you don't want to work that why you say (technicians not accept to teach me ) .

I want to know if you or anyone in this situation what he will do for manager and the supervisor ?

This is spot on.

You have just learned that in the real world, experience trumps a degree every time. I retired from the Navy after 26 years, went in as enlisted and retired as an officer. Nothing was worse than some young Ensign fresh out of college showing up onboard ship and act like they were in charge. This is coming from me from both the enlisted and officer side of things. Best I can tell you is put in your time to learn the things they want you to learn or start looking for another job.

Real life can be hard on a college grad that thinks they can enter the work force and be in a lead position immediately. That is why there are so many college grads working as baristas and at the drive-thru window.

And so is this.

Thank you all for your advice. I will keep working with them until I get the experience certificate then I will leave because the company have an issues with the salary they pay the salary after 1 month of the actual salary time.

There is value in being able to understand all of the jobs. As the now retired Manager of of 22 Chemists in the QC lab for a Contract Manufacturer for 20 years (products involving chemical/material compositions such as beauty care products), we would sometimes get bachelor's chemists right out of school who thought they knew things and these people ended up washing a lot of glassware and no one wanted to tell them what they really needed to know. In fact, all school does for you is give enough background that you can learn how to do the REAL work that is necessary for a position in the real world. Myself I have a post-graduate degree in Chemistry and never thought it qualified me for anything. However a degree shows that you can succeed in attaining a long-term goal. The bright side is that education DOES count to HR, and education will get you a higher salary while you're learning on the job.

My advice is to look for another position with another company, but start off a lot more humble. Looks like you have really blown it with your manager. Lots of politics in companies. You will be best served by approaching your position as "How can I help my boss, or make my boss happy" - most importantly "How can I get noticed". Involve yourself in many small projects that have a forseeable positive end, and are visible up the ladder. If you only do the same thing day in and day out, the best anyone can ever say about you is that you did your job. You have to finish and be successful in projects to get noticed. Ask to learn things! Surround yourself with successful people and do what they do!

When I was first working at my last company I was just a regular chemist (although paid for my advanced degree). Only one person at the time knew how to do analyses utilizing chromatography, and the company was moving into FDA regulated products and GMP Processes. This requires validation of the manufacturing process and methods, with records kept for future audit by the FDA as well as out customers. So I asked the person who was doing this stuff to show me how to run the equipment, and he never had the time. So I went to my boss and asked him for 2 weeks to learn the software and instruments, with no other duties and did it on my own. Long story short, the other person ended up quitting, I took over the new projects myself, and in a year I was named Lab Manager when my boss was successful and moved up the ladder. See how those kind of things work?

One thing that was great about the Navy is you never took a pay cut when you transferred to another duty station or ship, you didn't lose your rank or seniority, and you didn't lose your knowledge. You went to a billet that was that was equivalent to your rank. Only bad thing was you had to requalify on various things if you went to another ship. I had to go to Boilerwater/feedwater school five times, and each time was the same. Just had to have that certification as I was in Engineering. There were others and it did get old after a while.