alloy wheels prone to leakage?
like the title states, are factory alloy rims prone to leakage? seems like im always having to put air in the tires a couple times per month, dad had this same set of rims on his old '95 blazer but with different tires and he always seemed to have at least one tire down at any one given time. the rims are from the '95 originally, that blazer had almost 200K when parked, dont know how long theyve been on this '97 but id say at least 50K miles. im considering going to a yard and getting 4 spare tires if steel wheels will not give me this problem. i have a set of "Z" racing wheels that were on the '97 when dad bought it, they have a dual bolt pattern and he seemed to think the blazer got worse milage with them despite being the same size and having the same size tire on them as the factory g.m. wheels. they also take tose awful sort-shank mag lug nuts that wont work when you need the spare, theres a pic of them in my gallery on the green '95 blazer. any one else had a leakdown issue with alloy rims? anything that can be done about it? i personally hate these factory alloys, have to use a socket and extention to start the lugnuts. but i hate to buy new wheels for such a old rig with such high miles. tires are getting pretty bad on this set, need to figure out something before i get new tires.
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are you sure they are straight? A little love from a crub you got too close to, and they can be real buggers... if you haven't banged them up any, and the rim looks good where the tire seals, you can always look for leaks. get a bucket of soapy water, pull her up on the incline part of a sidewalk or driveway (one tire at a time) so as to put max pressure on it.
take a brush and rub the soapy water around the seal and valve stem... if it blows bubbles, you have an issue. a bad seal can come from dry rotting tires, old tires, recently-mashed-into-a-crub-tires (and rims) etc. Don't call out the rims just yet. :icon_twocents: *EDIT* just saw where you are... might be a bit :icon_brr: for the soap and water trick right now... also tires 'lose pressure' when it's colder out due to contraction of the air trapped inside the tire. :icon_shrug: SCIENCE!! you could always fill it with nitrogen so it wont expand/contract and it sounds cooler to say you have nitro tires!!!1 |
anything is possible with the miles thats on these wheels. ive put soapy water all over the outside face before while washing the truck, maybe i need to pull the tires off it one at a time and do the inside as well, they dont appear to have been banged up against a curb. but my mom has drove this vehicle before, she seems to think tires are curb-feelers. *edit* christmas eve some local kids went around slicing tires, got my ranger and a neighbor lost tires on both vehicles, they didnt touch the blazer though, which had the worst tires on it, thought about filling the tires with propane in case they came back and are smokers. yes its cold here right now, but you only lose about 5-10 psi from 90 degress to 32, im dropping a good 20-25 psi in a 2-3 week time frame. mainly from the r.r. but i do check and add to the rest as well.
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sounds like the R/R might be on it's last leg... how's the spare treating you?
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the spare is a stock steel wheel, originally from the '95 (the '97 had a temporary spare from the factory) the tire on it holds air but is badly wore on one side from a alignment issue sometime earlier in its life. i plan on taking the "best" tire from this set and making it the "spare" it hold air fine, but it doesnt look like anything id want to trust going down the road. i might go to 235 75 15's stock size on this truck is 235 70 15's. my ranger has never had issues with air loss with its alloy wheels, but i dont run them in the winter, i have a 2nd set of steel wheels from a jeep that i use as a "winter" set. heres the style rims the blazer has: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...n_2006/004.jpg
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I haven't had any problem whatsoever with the stock alloys. You might want to make sure that the bead seal is clean before mounting another set of tires. I can guarantee you the guy at the shop isn't worried about it.
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Bert nailed it right there! a clean bead will never leak. and he really nailed the last point there!
i've got a set of wheels that had about 80K put on the BN Michelin's about 6 or 7 years ago, and i've never had to add air to them regularly. seriously, maybe 5 pounds or so in the Spring time, but that's it. and they've been the Winter storage wheels for my 'Burb for the past 3 years. next time you get tires, or are having the bead checked/redone, ask them how they clean the bead area when mounting new tires. even try and watch them while they're doing them. i know most shops don't allow customers into the shop for insurance/safety reasons, i'm just lucky to have friends work in the industry, so i don't get kicked out of the shop area. |
these guys are right on the money!!!!! when you get new tires make sure that the bead area of the wheel is cleaned and that they apply an amount of bead sealer that might indicate that they stole it from another shop!! this is very inportant when dealing with older alum. wheels. also make sure they apply the sealer to the new valve stem before they pull it into the wheel. i have had to do this for many, many customers with alum. wheels over the years. :icon_wink:
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GM has a technical service bulletin on this very topic. It does happen. Porosity in the casting can allow air to leak out of the rim. This can be diagnosed with a dunk tank and is evidenced by tiny bubbles forming on the surface of the rim between the beads. This isn't something that just starts happening one day though unless the rim has been damaged so...
Tires/Wheels - Low Tire/Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels TECHNICAL Bulletin No.: 05-03-10-003F Date: April 27, 2010 Subject: Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant) Models: 2011 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks (Including Saturn) 2010 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3 2009 and Prior Saab 9-7X with Cast Aluminum Wheels Supercede: This bulletin is being revised to update the model years and the bulletin reference information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-03-10-003E (Section 03 - Suspension). Condition Some customers may comment on a low tire pressure condition. Diagnosis of the low tire pressure condition indicates an air leak through the cast aluminum wheel. Cause Porosity in the cast aluminum wheel may be the cause. Notice: This bulletin specifically addresses issues related to the wheel casting that may result in an air leak. For issues related to corrosion of the wheel in service, please refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 08-03-10-006C - Tire Slowly Goes Flat, Tire Air Loss, Low Tire Pressure Warning Light Illuminated, Aluminum Wheel Bead Seat Corrosion (Clean and Resurface Wheel Bead Seat). Correction
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:icon_eek: seriously... you have to be a computer.... :icon_eek:
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