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Chevyguy032 03-13-2007, 10:27 PM well i got my new distributor cap and rotor the other day (accel) and today when i went to change them everything went on well...except the rotor was real hard to get on all the way(dont know if that is normal or not) well after that i went to fire it up and it ran real ****ty like it was starving for fuel for about 5 seconds than it ran nice, but the service engine light was one..so i decided to swap back to the stock cap and rotor and its doing the same thing...it dosent really backfire..so i am confused on what could of caused this?
Hanr3 03-14-2007, 01:40 AM Spark plugs out of order.
Get them back in the correct firing order.
1-6-5-4-3-2 around the cap. #1 is the closest to the #1 piston typically.
20Blazer00 03-14-2007, 01:59 AM ORIGINAL: Hanr3
Spark plugs out of order.
Get them back in the correct firing order.
1-6-5-4-3-2 around the cap. #1 is the closest to the #1 piston typically.
Its an 87 with a 350 TBI, at least that is what the signature says...you will have to find the firing order, it might be on the intake near the distributor, if the intake is aftermarket then you can look it up in a Haynes/Chilton's manual. Then use the 0* timing mark on the crank to find the number 1 cyl then mark the cap and place the wires back on the cap as needed in rotational order...
Hanr3 03-14-2007, 02:08 AM I guess I should read the signature huh?
Doh!!!!
Chevyguy032 03-14-2007, 03:46 PM yea i did that a good 5 times..lol but i also notcied some blue smokes puffs out when it first starts up....and as it warms it if you get hard in it, it misses I am hopefuly scanning it tomorrow hopefuly in my shop class..ill let you know what the code is..thankz
fnirish 03-14-2007, 04:30 PM If I'm not mistaken, the rotor is keyed, so it only goes on one way. I don't remember having any trouble putting the one on my 89.
20Blazer00 03-14-2007, 05:03 PM ORIGINAL: Chevyguy032
yea i did that a good 5 times..lol but i also notcied some blue smokes puffs out when it first starts up....and as it warms it if you get hard in it, it misses I am hopefuly scanning it tomorrow hopefuly in my shop class..ill let you know what the code is..thankz
Those puffs in the morning maybe caused by worn valve guides and seals.
20Blazer00 03-14-2007, 05:07 PM ORIGINAL: fnirish
If I'm not mistaken, the rotor is keyed, so it only goes on one way. I don't remember having any trouble putting the one on my 89.
Most of the older design caps don't have numbers on the top telling you what wire goes to what cylinder and it is common when replacing wires that if you removed all the wires at once to get them misplaced on the top of the cap when re-installing the new wires...luckily GM cast the firing order into the body of the manifold near the rear so that you could see it and make it easier to replace wires, only problem aftermarket caps don't come with the same information embeded into them...
Chevyguy032 03-15-2007, 12:34 AM yea but i put the stock rotor and cap on and it still does it and the ouff just started happening when the motor started acting funny..i also smell fuel while driving when i have the windows down
Chevyguy032 03-20-2007, 12:58 AM well i got it scanned today and 2 codes came up one about the MAP sensor..and the other one sayin my exhaust is rich..now would the MAP sensor cause my exhaust to become rich?
20Blazer00 03-20-2007, 01:24 AM It is possible...since the computer uses the information from the MAP sensor to determine the amount of air flowing into the intake. It uses the vacuum created in the intake to calculate what the fuel ratio should be...
supramacist 03-20-2007, 03:48 AM Carberators used to be much easier to work than this fuel injected crapolla but I still like it.
I have decided that todays autos get better gas mileage but are more difficult to work on.
The old school stuff is easier to work on but costs more at the pumps more frequently.
In another 10 years wer'e all going to be road warrioring for gas because everything is going to be
hydrogen or electric.
What the heck am I supposed to do with my porsche and my supra, our blazer and our benz.
I want to buy the old lady a new titan but dang.
SDimeBlazerlady 03-20-2007, 03:55 AM Have your Cat converter checked also..If u have 1;)
swartlkk 03-20-2007, 09:29 AM Yeah, the MAP sensor is used in conjunction with the TPS (throttle position sensor) and the O2 sensor to determine the proper IPW (injector pulse width). It is quite possible that the MAP sensor is causing the whole problem.
Chevyguy032 03-20-2007, 06:30 PM ORIGINAL: SDimeBlazerlady
Have your Cat converter checked also..If u have 1;)
brand spankin new converter..lol had that replaced last week
Chevyguy032 03-27-2007, 04:27 PM well i changed the MAP sensor today and it still acts like it wants to stall out..i dont know what to do at this point..
SDimeBlazerlady 03-28-2007, 01:52 AM Could the distributor itself be bad?[&:]
MNHawk 03-28-2007, 04:06 AM Check the injector spray, if its like a fine mist shower on both injectors (if its duel) then that is fine. If you see droplets like rain then you have a dirty injector. If its lacking spray then you might have faulty wires to the injector. (the older TB's are known for dead wires).
Now with a RICH GAS code for exhaust, that would lean me towards a *Fuel Pressure Regulator* or the TPSgoing out. With the newer side mount air cleaners like on the 3.1, 3.3, 3.8, 4.3, 5.7's it was easy to find out if that was it due to there would be gas all the way out to the filter.
Sad part is that the MAP sensor could had just been a bad vacuum line. Usually these last a lot longer then most think on the older stuff. This would also explane excessive fuel use, due to when the vacuum line is bad, the computer will dump extra fuel in the motor. Like going from 24 mpg down to 11 mpg.
Chevyguy032 03-29-2007, 01:01 AM yea there is a vaccum line that comes from the MAP sensor that i have no idea where it goes to
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