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cdtek101 01-31-2017 11:28 PM

2000 Block vs 2001 Block - Knock Sensor
 
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I am pulling my 1999 block with large
threaded knock sensor and going to install a 2001 block with
smaller threaded sensor.

Knock sensor
19xx to 2000 Blocks
Uses a 1 wire with a large thread in bolt around 1/2" to 5/8"

2001 forward Blocks
uses a 2 wire with a smaller threaded bolt 1/4"

I have read...
1. Can Drill & Tap smaller hole to fit 1 wire larger sensor.
2. Can Use Blue wire and ground Gray one on the sensor.
3. Use a reducer - large female size to male 1/4 and
thread into 2001 block 1/4" small hole.

Pics I have found attached with my notes.

Thanks for any input on this, I know I am not going to let
a damn 1/4 hole size change stop me from getting that 2001
block in my 1999 Blazer.

Bill

cdtek101 02-03-2017 01:38 PM

Anyone ??

Rusty Nuts 02-03-2017 02:57 PM

I'd go with option 1. Drill and tap the hole and keep everything 1999. Option 2 is easier if you're sure it will work. Option 3 I wouldn't do because I'm too fussy. The piezoelectric crystal in the knock sensor produces electricity when shaken. Raising it's mounting point even that little bit may create a pendulum effect where it's moving farther than it would in the stock location. I don't know if they are that sensitive, but I know my luck when I try to take the easiest way.

cdtek101 02-03-2017 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Rusty Nuts (Post 672967)
I'd go with option 1. Drill and tap the hole and keep everything 1999. Option 2 is easier if you're sure it will work. Option 3 I wouldn't do because I'm too fussy. The piezoelectric crystal in the knock sensor produces electricity when shaken. Raising it's mounting point even that little bit may create a pendulum effect where it's moving farther than it would in the stock location. I don't know if they are that sensitive, but I know my luck when I try to take the easiest way.

Thank you... I am leaning that way as well, ..not to mention..
If option 2 didn't work it would be a mission impossible to
drill tap after motor was back in.

LesMyer 02-03-2017 03:35 PM

FYI


1 wire sensor is 1/4" NPT thread

2 wire sensor is supposed to be 5/16-18 thread

Option 2 will not work - don't do it - check the wiring schematic.

Drill and tap the hole in the 2001 block to 1/4 NPT if you can, and screw in the 1 wire sensor. It doesn't have to seal - just be solid.

I have also recently heard of screwing the 1-wire sensor into the 1/4 NPT coolant hole in the side of the head and extending the wiring to that location.

cdtek101 02-03-2017 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Lesmyer (Post 672971)
FYI
1 wire sensor is 1/4" NPT thread
2 wire sensor is supposed to be 5/16-18 thread

Drill and tap the hole in the 2001 block to 1/4 NPT if you can, and screw in the 1 wire sensor.

I have also recently heard of screwing the 1-wire sensor into the 1/4 NPT coolant hole in the side of the head and extending the wiring to that location.

Confused Les - Did you get sizes backwards ?


Did you mean drill tap 2001 block which is 1/4 already
to 5/16-18 thread for larger knock sensor size bolt ???

And -

?? - The 1 wire sensor 5/16 size.. would not fit in coolant
hole if coolant hole is only 1/4 ?


From pictures I have seen the (1999) 1 wire sensor looks like
a big boy around 7/8 or 1/2, hope to find out tomorrow
when my guy pulls it out of 99 block.

swartlkk 02-03-2017 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by cdtek101 (Post 672976)
Confused Les - Did you get sizes backwards ?


Did you mean drill tap 2001 block which is 1/4 already
to 5/16-18 thread for larger knock sensor size bolt ???

And -

?? - The 1 wire sensor 5/16 size.. would not fit in coolant
hole if coolant hole is only 1/4 ?


From pictures I have seen the (1999) 1 wire sensor looks like
a big boy around 7/8 or 1/2, hope to find out tomorrow
when my guy pulls it out of 99 block.


1/4" NPT (national pipe - taper) is considerably larger than a 1/4-20 or other similar straight thread since it is formed into the outside of a 1/4" pipe having a nominal outside diameter of 0.405".

LesMyer 02-03-2017 05:39 PM

1/4 NPT is larger than 5/16-18. 1/4 NPT is the size of the threads on a the 1-wire knock sensor used in 1999.

cdtek101 02-03-2017 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Lesmyer (Post 672979)
1/4 NPT is larger than 5/16-18. 1/4 NPT is the size of the threads on a the 1-wire knock sensor used in 1999.


Originally Posted by swartlkk (Post 672978)
1/4" NPT (national pipe - taper) is considerably larger than a 1/4-20 or other similar straight thread since it is formed into the outside of a 1/4" pipe having a nominal outside diameter of 0.405".

Ok kool I did not know that... :icon_imnotworthy:

I was just going off standard bolt sizes,
was wondering what NPT stood for.


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