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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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I just checked my plenum today. My pressure tester registered about 60psi at rest that rapidly dropped to about 17psi. At idle it very rapidly flicks between about 55 and 60. I noticed that a small part of the passengers side of the plenum was clean, could this be from the seafoam I ran through it not too long ago?
The drivers side was all carboned up as usual.

I am getting P0172 system too rich bank 1
and P1406
I am in the process of getting a trombone cleaner to clean out my EGR passage (is there something that would be easier to get that would work to clean it out?)

I began getting P0172 after running seafoam through my intake to get rid of carbon build up and get the whitesmoke out of my exhaust. And at the last fill up i ran some Marvel though the gas to see if a plunger in my injector was sticking, no results yet.

My idle is rough, my exhaust is strong and smells like gas, and i keep failing emisions by a little bit. I've lost power, but I'm not convinced its my FPR, I'm still thinking it might be the spider. When i get a chance I'll take the the plenum cover off completely and not just the cap.
 
Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Default RE: FPR or Spider CPI problems

If your pressure is dropping that fast, you have a leak in the fuel system. I would be popping the upper plenum off sooner than later. You may not have a faulty FPR, but rather, maybe a failed nut kit...
 
Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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http://www.dormanproducts.com/images/items/hwrap1/55163.jpg]Is This What You're Talking about? return hose[/URL]
or what exactly is a nut kit
 
Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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Default RE: FPR or Spider CPI problems

Yes, that is what is commonly referred to as the 'nut kit'. It consists of the internal feed and return lines.
 
Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Would i test that by just taking the upper plenum off, and pressurizing the system, or is that a bad idea?
 
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i was gonna say it was the nut kit also. i had the same problem
 
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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well i ordered the nutkit and FPR (just for good measure) for a grand total of about $100... and DAMN IT my CEL went off again(and no i don't mean it came on)..... i think it does it to spite me....

anyways.... i pick them up tomorrow and ill keep driving and see if they come back on... maybe the marvel mystery oil i put in mysteriously and marvelously fixed it
 
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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alright, my codes have stayed off for a day, and its running smoother and its got more power, and smells a little less gasoline-ish...

and i haven't even replaced anything yet.... im cursed

Ill be poppin off the upper plenum tomorrow and installing the new FPR and nut kit
 
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Yah when you do those fixes you might want to clean your MAF sensor if you havent in a while to help save some gas, and maybe bring down the mixture toward lean.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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'95s dont have them haha
and on the bright side, the codes came back and its rough again
 

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