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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 07:47 AM
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Hey,

I had a mechanic tell me the transfer case on my 99 blazer was seized up.

NP236 with 4 button 4WD

I wanted to verify for myself so I marked the starting location of the shaft (for lack of a proper term). Was able to move it somewhat easily using two hands on the 17mm wrench.

My question is: how many positions should I be able to get on the wrench? 2 hi, N, 4 hi, 4 lo?

How do I know which position relates to which mode? I can’t find this info anywhere.

How hard should it be to change positions with the wrench?

Thanks in advanced!

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Hi,

I looked in my GM 99 service manual and the best I could find were the pages I've scanned and posted below. I couldn't find anything the discussed which position corresponded to which drive mode. All the other diagnostic info relied on an OBD code reader.

Maybe a transmission repair shop or online video can help? Is the encoder/motor functional? If so, perhaps you could remove it but leave it connected electrically so that you could activate each mode and then note which position corresponded to each mode?
 
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Thanks for the reply. I’m new here and not sure how to directly reply to your comment.

anyways, the encoder motor ohms out ok but I think it’s off in position a few teeth. If I install it on the shaft, it is about a half a hole off for the bolt holes.

There is a label on the encoder that says operating the encoding without the load of the transfer case will cause damage.

Thanks for taking the time to scan those pages in.
 
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Sorry I could not help more.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 
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Thanks.

Any idea where to find a pdf of GMPT/99-TURM?

Apparently this the manual for the transmission and transfer case
 
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In case anyone finds this in the future…

I figured out there are 3 positions.
2H/4H, Neutral, and 4L

Neutral is straight up and down. 4L is full CCW and 2H/4H is full clockwise.

The difference between 4H and 2H is that in 4H the front differential is locked in.
 
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Nice job and thanks for posting what you learned.

Where did you find the info?
 
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Hours of looking up anything I could find about how the NV236 or NV246 works since it seems to be very similar to the 236.

Then I confirmed when I had the Blazer on jack stands.

I found a good article, but I’m not a mechanic so alot of it went over my head.

https://www.transmissiondigest.com/a...transfer-case/

and then this one:

https://www.transmissiondigest.com/n...ng-the-tricks/

Again, I’m not an expert or even close. But my understanding is that the 246 is a beefier version of the 236. How it operates is basically the same. And there is very limited info on the operation of the 236 that I was able to find online and YouTube.

Hope this helps someone.
 
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There are more than 3 shaft positions on a 4-button transfer case. See attachment.

Also the same is found here https://blazerforum.com/forum/2nd-ge...-blazer-89044/
 
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Regarding the transfer case selector shaft that the encoder motor actuates, I thought there was only 3 positions.

But it sounds like it also applies a known torque to the selector that will engage a clutch pack for 4 Auto?

But if I were to put a wrench on the shaft, I should only find 3 positions (hopefully)?

Thanks for the info!!
 

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