Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
#11
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
I DO NOT PLAN ON RACING MY TRUCK. Im simply saying the pcm's already been programmed, but i'll let it shift normally. It's not a vette lol. Its not a 454. Iget no joy out of using 30 yr old technology. except my pc its an old apple pc, it doesn't even use windows.
#12
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
The fact is that if you rev much past the power peak in any car, you're not accomplishing much or accelerating very fast. The time lost due to slow acceleration after you pass the power peak is generally not going to be recovered by having the next shift drop the engine into some (imagined) spot in the power curve.
You lose time one place or another, but revving the motor higher than it's designed to is just asking for premature wear and engine trouble.Torque generally peaks at much lower RPM than HP, and in the Vortec V6 the peak is about 2800 RPM. The HP peak in this engine is reached at 4400 RPM. The way it adds up - after 5000 RPM what you're doing is mostly revving to hear it rev. IMO, without a planned and integrated set of engine mods, raising the rev limit to 6200 RPM is pointless.
You lose time one place or another, but revving the motor higher than it's designed to is just asking for premature wear and engine trouble.Torque generally peaks at much lower RPM than HP, and in the Vortec V6 the peak is about 2800 RPM. The HP peak in this engine is reached at 4400 RPM. The way it adds up - after 5000 RPM what you're doing is mostly revving to hear it rev. IMO, without a planned and integrated set of engine mods, raising the rev limit to 6200 RPM is pointless.
#13
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
I completely agree! Believe it or not. It's too late for that though. I made a mistake on the of moving the redline to 6200. Thats actually why i was asking. I am not going to mod the engine to any extense that would enable it to rev any higher actually. I don't want it to rev past the where power it becomes useless. My goal with pcm was timing and afr, among other things. Now that i look at my calculations i see clearly that after about 5k power, and torque fall off more dramatic than previously thought by me. Just for the record, i sent as i made my first post here. i emailed the guy on the rpm side of things without any answers also. p.s. i am admiting i was wrong the vortec in my case will not be any good, as in reving it higher.
#14
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
You can get cams that shift your power band, so it could theoretically produce power PAST your redline, and if you're running forced induction, the more RPM you make, the more power you'll get.
Nascar engines are made to breath like crazy at high RPM, because that'll make the car go faster (turns the transmission faster) The reason they shift at or near redline, is because they're tuned to have peak power close to redline...
And when you change gears, you don't want the RPM to land ON the peak power, then power falls off without much use... you want your RPM to fall just UNDER peak power on a shift...
Nascar engines are made to breath like crazy at high RPM, because that'll make the car go faster (turns the transmission faster) The reason they shift at or near redline, is because they're tuned to have peak power close to redline...
And when you change gears, you don't want the RPM to land ON the peak power, then power falls off without much use... you want your RPM to fall just UNDER peak power on a shift...
#15
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
You and all the other "experts" the 4.3 V6 is 3/4 of an old style 350 V8 truck engine. There is NOTHING high performance about it. If you want high performance you have to do the same things to it that you would a 350 truck motor.
#16
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
Hey Jackal, good clarification. Having a 6200 RPM cutoff on the motor doesn't mean you actually have to use it. Just have a good, accurate tach and shift where the power curve makes it desirable. If you have a few hundred RPM available before it would cutoff, that doesn't hurt a thing.
#17
RE: Redline on 97 4.3l Vortec?
for anyone who has a hypertech what is the best setting for changing the shift points?
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