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Old 09-24-2018, 10:37 PM
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i Have a 97 blazer with a 4.3 vortec motor. It has 208,000 miles and has a gutted cat and complete straight pipe exhaust. New fuel pump and filter in 2015. It has a misfire that comes in at about 1500 rpm and doesn’t really go away after that unless you floor it and it doesn’t miss. Doesn’t throw any codes either. This past March I did new plugs wires and cap and rotor. Yes I used oe Delco plugs and duralast gold wires and cap rotor. It also may be related but it keeps losing antifreeze. No leaks and it’s not in the oil either. It has a new radiator and thermostat to. I’m so lost with this if anyone can help me lead to something I’d appreciate it. Thanks.
 
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Coolant can take out a cat converter.
 
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Coolant can take out a cat converter.
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  • Engine Tune-Up Required.
A number of problems could occur to the catalytic converter as the result of an engine that is out of tune. Any time an engine is operating outside proper specifications, unnecessary wear and damage may be caused to the the catalytic converter as well as the engine itself. The damage is often the result of an incorrect air/fuel mixture, incorrect timing, or misfiring spark plugs. Any of these conditions could lead to a catalytic converter failure or worse.
  • Excess Fuel Entering Exhaust
The fuel that powers your vehicle is meant to burn in the combustion chamber only. Any fuel that leaves the combustion chamber unburned will enter the exhaust system and light-off when it reaches the catalytic converter. This can super-heat the converter far above normal operating conditions and cause a Melt Down. Possible causes are an incorrect fuel mixture, incorrect timing, corroded spark plugs, a faulty oxygen sensor, sticking float, faulty fuel injector or a malfunctioning check valve.
  • Oil or Antifreeze Entering Exhaust.
Oil or Antifreeze entering the exhaust system can block the air passages by creating a heavy carbon soot that coats the ceramic catalyst. These heavy Carbon Deposits create two problems. First, the carbon deposits prevent the catalytic converter from reducing harmful emission in the exhaust flow. And second, the carbon deposits clog the pores in the ceramic catalyst and block exhaust flow, increasing backpressure and causing heat and exhaust to back up into the engine compartment. Your engine may actually draw burnt exhaust gasses back into the combustion chamber and dilute the efficiency of the next burn cycle. The result is a loss of power and overheated engine components. Possible causes are worn piston rings, faulty valve seals, failed gaskets or warped engine components.
  • Deteriorated Spark Plug or Spark Plug Wires.
Spark plugs that don't fire or misfire cause unburned fuel to enter the exhaust system. The unburned fuel ignites inside the converter and could result in a partial or complete melt down of the ceramic catalyst. Spark plugs and spark plug wires should be checked regularly and replaced if damaged or if wires are worn or cracked.
  • Oxygen Sensor Not Functioning Properly.
An oxygen sensor failure can lead to incorrect readings of exhaust gasses. The faulty sensor can cause a too rich or too lean condition. Too rich and the catalyst can melt down. Too lean and the converter is unable to convert the hydrocarbons into safe elements and may not pass a state inspection.
  • Road Damage or Broken Hangers.
The ceramic catalyst inside a catalytic converter is made from a lightweight, thin-walled, fragile material. It is protected by a dense, insulating mat. This mat holds the catalyst in place and provides moderate protection against damage. However, rock or road debris s triking the converter or improper or broken exhaust system support can cause a Catalyst Fracture. Once the ceramic catalyst is fractured, the broken pieces become loose and rattle around and break up into smaller pieces. Flow is interrupted and backpressure in the exhaust system increases. This leads to heat build up and loss of power. Possible causes of a catalyst fracture are road debris striking the converter, loose or broken hangers, potholes or off-road driving.-Here are some reasons for a cat going out
 
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Originally Posted by Twell47933
i Have a 97 blazer with a 4.3 vortec motor. It has 208,000 miles and has a gutted cat and complete straight pipe exhaust. New fuel pump and filter in 2015. It has a misfire that comes in at about 1500 rpm and doesn’t really go away after that unless you floor it and it doesn’t miss. Doesn’t throw any codes either. This past March I did new plugs wires and cap and rotor. Yes I used oe Delco plugs and duralast gold wires and cap rotor. It also may be related but it keeps losing antifreeze. No leaks and it’s not in the oil either. It has a new radiator and thermostat to. I’m so lost with this if anyone can help me lead to something I’d appreciate it. Thanks.


A steady misfire should be detected by the misfire detection system (given that the conditions listed below are met) and turn the SES light on with a P030X code. Are you sure the SES light is working? May have been disconnected because of the removed cat converter keeping it on. Also a failure to recognize a misfire may be indicative of another problem.

Antifreeze often leaves through intake gasket leak on the 4.3.

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CONDITIONS FOR RUNNING THE (P030X) DTC

IMPORTANT: If start-up ECT is below -7°C (20°F) , misfire detection is delayed until ECT is more than 21°C (70°F) . If start-up ECT is more than -7°C (20°F) , misfire detection begins after a 5 second delay.

* No active VS sensor DTCs
* No active TP sensor DTCs
* No active MAF sensor DTCs
* No active CKP sensor DTCs
* No active CMP sensor DTCs
* The fuel level is more than 10 percent .
* The engine speed is between 450-5000 RPM .
* The system voltage is between 11-16 volts .
* The throttle position is steady within 2 percent for 100 ms .

CONDITIONS FOR SETTING THE DTC
The VCM detects a deceleration in the crankshaft speed characteristic of either an emission type misfire or a catalyst damaging type misfire.

ACTION TAKEN WHEN THE DTC SETS
If the VCM determines that the engine misfire is significant enough to have a negative impact on emissions, the VCM turns ON the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) after the misfire has been detected on 2 non-consecutive trips under the same operating conditions. If the misfire is severe enough that catalytic converter damage could result, the MIL flashes while the misfire is present.

https://blazerforum.com/forum/diagno...4-5-6-a-35153/
 

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Originally Posted by LesMyer
A steady misfire should be detected by the misfire detection system and turn the SES light on with a P030X code. Are you sure the SES light is working? May have been disconnected because of the removed cat converter keeping it on.
the lights burnt out but I have a code reader and it only has a evap during non purge som thing code
 
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