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Old 07-11-2020, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy1820 View Post
All the garages up this way use one of these:
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Like I said, running it without the thermostat in the middle of summer won’t hurt your engine. Remember the goal is to rule out a problem you’re having trouble with.
If the thermostat is the problem, your engine temps would probably stay around 150ish without the thermostat, your engine would stay in open loop, the MIL would set, and the engine would operate off the VE tables and run rich.

In the mean time, the next time the engine temps start to escalate, turn the heat on full.
It wont be pleasant inside the cab, but this will help lower engine temps and prevent overheat damage.
yea I definitely know about that trick....I have to roll the windows down and turn the heat on just so the won’t take any damage..

didn’t know how much I hated outside sounds until I had to do this lol

also, I work at a dealer. I have a single guy that can fix anything....I haven’t had time to hand my vehicle to him yet so I’ve mostly been driving my second car. But I want to fix it myself.
 
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Originally Posted by Jefflego View Post
I don’t know what type of thermostat that is. Yes the radiator is hot when it happens. Yes the thermostat is in correctly and opens up at operating temp. When reaching operating temp it does hold steady for a short time but after that it starts rising again.

the only thing I haven’t done is use an infrared thermometer to measure each point. I think I’ll get one tomorrow
I meant IR thermometer, don't know how I went to thermostat. You're on the right track.
 
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
I meant IR thermometer, don't know how I went to thermostat. You're on the right track.

Cool, I have a plan now...I will update tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by Jefflego View Post
I don’t know what type of thermostat that is. Yes the radiator is hot when it happens. Yes the thermostat is in correctly and opens up at operating temp. When reaching operating temp it does hold steady for a short time but after that it starts rising again.

the only thing I haven’t done is use an infrared thermometer to measure each point. I think I’ll get one tomorrow
Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
Do you have an IR thermostat? If not get one, they come in handy. Is the radiator reading hot when this happens? Is the thermostat in correctly and working properly? I mean as in closed when cold? Can you see the change in flow as it heats up and the thermostat opens?
FYI: I believe he meant and "Infra-Red Thermometer".

Whoops! this was clarified already
 
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Is your radiator shroud in place and snug against the radiator? When you added the antifreeze, was it a premix or did you mix it yourself? When you replaced the radiator did you get the thicker one for a v6 and not the 4 banger? You did get the water pump with the correct rotation, right?
 
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Originally Posted by eshaw View Post
Is your radiator shroud in place and snug against the radiator? When you added the antifreeze, was it a premix or did you mix it yourself? When you replaced the radiator did you get the thicker one for a v6 and not the 4 banger? You did get the water pump with the correct rotation, right?
I had to order my lower shroud. I mixed the antifreeze myself. I got the rad for the v6 and yes water pump is correct.
 
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Update

Think I found out the mysterious overheating issue.
i was using an IR Thermometer on the upper radiator hose and happening to look over at the lower hose when something caught my eye. There was small bubbling coming from the overflow tank hose where it connects right under the radiator cap.

I took a zip tie and it has overheated way slower now. I think I just need to bleed the system one good time or two.

currently doing that.
 
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Originally Posted by Jefflego View Post
Update

Think I found out the mysterious overheating issue.
i was using an IR Thermometer on the upper radiator hose and happening to look over at the lower hose when something caught my eye. There was small bubbling coming from the overflow tank hose where it connects right under the radiator cap.

I took a zip tie and it has overheated way slower now. I think I just need to bleed the system one good time or two.

currently doing that.
Oh, that is a sneaky leak! Good Catch! Be sure to give us an update later.
 
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Okay so it did still overheat but today I decided to replace the idler pulley because it was worn out and creaking. While there I decided to just possibly tighten every hose clamp. Well the bypass hose from the water pump to the thermostat housing was a little loose at the housing. Wasn’t loose enough to pop off, only loose enough to twist.

it’s such a tight spot to use a screw driver to tighten it fully so it makes sense that was was a bit loose. After some stress over not having a solution I remembered a 10mm can fit the clamp screw so I used a 1/4 ratchet to get in there.....

I ran it for 30 minutes and the temp stayed at the middle.....I’m so dumb....moral of the story make sure all hose clamps are tight
 
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Old 07-25-2020, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefflego View Post
Okay so it did still overheat but today I decided to replace the idler pulley because it was worn out and creaking. While there I decided to just possibly tighten every hose clamp. Well the bypass hose from the water pump to the thermostat housing was a little loose at the housing. Wasn’t loose enough to pop off, only loose enough to twist.

it’s such a tight spot to use a screw driver to tighten it fully so it makes sense that was was a bit loose. After some stress over not having a solution I remembered a 10mm can fit the clamp screw so I used a 1/4 ratchet to get in there.....

I ran it for 30 minutes and the temp stayed at the middle.....I’m so dumb....moral of the story make sure all hose clamps are tight
Hey don't feel bad. We've all been there. But congrats on figuring it out! And thanks for reporting back. You've saved someone else the same headache by sharing it here.
Now get yourself a beer! You deserve it!
 
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