Random Misfire Bench Cleaned Injectors - New Fuel Pump - New Intake Gaskets
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I have a 2000 GMC Jimmy, 4.3 L v-6, that is giving me a serious headache. I was getting a P0304 Misfire #4 Cylinder trouble code, and the check engine light (CEL) would flash after about 1 minute of drive time. Only flashed under load. I could sit at idle or half throttle sitting still and not have the flash. Being a specific cylinder I didn’t figure it would be a vacuum leak unless it was right next to that cylinder. Also the fuel trim on bank 2 seemed high, at least compared to bank 1. LTFT B2: 17.5 vs Ave LTFT B1: 8.9.
I tried releasing propane all around the intake plenum and heads with no change in idle. Blew cigar smoke into a vacuum line and saw smoke (very little) coming out near where the throttle assembly is attached to throttle body. I’m guessing a bad o-ring around the shaft but I doubt that would cause a specific cylinder to misfire. I also changed the plugs, wires, cap and rotor. The solenoids can be hear clicking with a stethoscope. I checked the solenoid resistance and all are within specks and I checked operation of the solenoids with a test light ( I don’t have a noid light)
To make a long story short I replaced the intake manifold (had to, I broke it) and cleaned the injectors and assembly. I made a bench cleaning system with an old fuel pump in a can of B-12 solvent and some switches to activate the pump and solenoid. When I first ran my makeshift cleaner I noticed that the #4 injector seemed to be obstructed. Eventually I got all injectors “cleaned” or at least they looked like they were flowing better and about the same. I didn’t have a graduated cylinder to do a volume test so I used an old Everclear bottle and ran solvent through each injector for a minute, then marked the fluid level on a piece of paper behind it. Each injector measured out within about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch.
So I put everything back together, including a new fuel pump and this thing still runs like crap. Now I get a P0300 random misfire instead of P0304. The exhaust doesn’t smell as bad at least. But my Short Term Fuel Trim on bank 2 is now pegged at 50%. I also noticed that O2 sensor 3 bank 2 has no voltage. I think this is the one after the cat, please correct me if I’m wrong. Prior to doing the work sensor 3 seemed to be working voltage wise but the fuel trim was always “NA” so I assumed sensor 3 just reports data and doesn’t actually change how it runs. I also did the propane trick to look for vacuum leaks and found none. I have an ODB2 scantool, does anyone have the normal values I should be seeing on the tool? I have looked all over the web but have only found bits and pieces. Sorry for the long post. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I tried releasing propane all around the intake plenum and heads with no change in idle. Blew cigar smoke into a vacuum line and saw smoke (very little) coming out near where the throttle assembly is attached to throttle body. I’m guessing a bad o-ring around the shaft but I doubt that would cause a specific cylinder to misfire. I also changed the plugs, wires, cap and rotor. The solenoids can be hear clicking with a stethoscope. I checked the solenoid resistance and all are within specks and I checked operation of the solenoids with a test light ( I don’t have a noid light)
To make a long story short I replaced the intake manifold (had to, I broke it) and cleaned the injectors and assembly. I made a bench cleaning system with an old fuel pump in a can of B-12 solvent and some switches to activate the pump and solenoid. When I first ran my makeshift cleaner I noticed that the #4 injector seemed to be obstructed. Eventually I got all injectors “cleaned” or at least they looked like they were flowing better and about the same. I didn’t have a graduated cylinder to do a volume test so I used an old Everclear bottle and ran solvent through each injector for a minute, then marked the fluid level on a piece of paper behind it. Each injector measured out within about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch.
So I put everything back together, including a new fuel pump and this thing still runs like crap. Now I get a P0300 random misfire instead of P0304. The exhaust doesn’t smell as bad at least. But my Short Term Fuel Trim on bank 2 is now pegged at 50%. I also noticed that O2 sensor 3 bank 2 has no voltage. I think this is the one after the cat, please correct me if I’m wrong. Prior to doing the work sensor 3 seemed to be working voltage wise but the fuel trim was always “NA” so I assumed sensor 3 just reports data and doesn’t actually change how it runs. I also did the propane trick to look for vacuum leaks and found none. I have an ODB2 scantool, does anyone have the normal values I should be seeing on the tool? I have looked all over the web but have only found bits and pieces. Sorry for the long post. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have attached a couple of images that may have the values you're looking for (specs are for a '98 Blazer, VIN "W", RPO L35...I don't think they're different from your truck). Also, I did some looking through the TSM because you issue intrigued me. There were a couple things that caught my eye yo may want to look into...one is the EGR Valve and/or the EGR tube (Note: take a close look at the wires on the EGR valve).....the other was a bad catalytic converter. Both of which could
I could not find a bank 2 sensor 3 for this vehicle (once again my '98). There is the bank 1 sensor 3, which is the sensor to the rear of the catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe.
P.S. I would also be interested in seeing your bench tool.
I could not find a bank 2 sensor 3 for this vehicle (once again my '98). There is the bank 1 sensor 3, which is the sensor to the rear of the catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe.
P.S. I would also be interested in seeing your bench tool.
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