Truck is whining but not starting
I've tried searching this to no avail. I have been having issues with my 99 Blazer lately where it is either starting really hard to not starting at all. Now it is at the point where is it not starting at all and is making a whining sound. This happened after my son went to start it and it stalled out then he tried again and kept the key pushed back a few seconds longer than needed and since then all the issues have started. It sounds like when you try to start a vehicle and it's already running, that's the whining sound I am referring to. Anyone have any clue as to what this could be? I'm hoping it's a simple fix like alternator or starter so I can get back on the road as I have people depending on me to get back and forth to work as well as myself needing to get to work. Thank you for any helpful inof on this.
Blazer whining sound - YouTube This is what the sound is that I am referring to. Hope this helps UPDATE I finally heard back from the mechanic today and he called with BAD news telling me that he tried another starter and that did not resolve the issue, in fact that starter got torn apart as well. He said that the motor is junk. WHat I do not understand about it though is that all he said was that it had to do with the starter either not engaging/disengaging. Why is it not possible to replace the flywheel/gear is what I am wondering? Can someone help me out here and possibly explain what could be the issue here? I guess it's just divine intervention telling me it's time for a new vehicle and it just so happens that someone has the exact vehicle I want so I guess that it my sign that it's time to move on from the blazer and onto a Jeep hopefully. Anyways just wanted to give another update to what is going on. TY for all the responses that I got. |
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Originally Posted by mechelle207@yahoo.com
(Post 455122)
I've tried searching this to no avail. I have been having issues with my 99 Blazer lately where it is either starting really hard to not starting at all. Now it is at the point where is it not starting at all and is making a whining sound. This happened after my son went to start it and it stalled out then he tried again and kept the key pushed back a few seconds longer than needed and since then all the issues have started. It sounds like when you try to start a vehicle and it's already running, that's the whining sound I am referring to. Anyone have any clue as to what this could be? I'm hoping it's a simple fix like alternator or starter so I can get back on the road as I have people depending on me to get back and forth to work as well as myself needing to get to work. Thank you for any helpful inof on this.
Otherwise, teeth stripped from ring gear... and that's expensive to fix. |
If you have the starter replaced make sure they turn the engine over by
hand and check the flex plate teeth real good for chips or missing teeth. With the key off you can try to turn over engine by hand with the serpentine belt a few inches and then try starting it.If it cranks and doesn't grind you might have some missing teeth :( If it still grinds,you might luck out with a broken starter drive or broken nose cone. All the blazer starters i've replaced always have some sort of wear on the teeth.Some real bad,but some customers can't afford new flex plate and take the gamble and just replace starter.Some make a lot of noise when cranking,but they just hope it last another,month,year or five. |
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Originally Posted by xgiovannix12
(Post 455126)
any codes ?
Originally Posted by pettyfog
(Post 455127)
Judging from the highlighted part, you have starter problems, YOU HOPE!
Otherwise, teeth stripped from ring gear... and that's expensive to fix.
Originally Posted by Hightec1
(Post 455147)
If you have the starter replaced make sure they turn the engine over by
hand and check the flex plate teeth real good for chips or missing teeth. With the key off you can try to turn over engine by hand with the serpentine belt a few inches and then try starting it.If it cranks and doesn't grind you might have some missing teeth :( If it still grinds,you might luck out with a broken starter drive or broken nose cone. All the blazer starters i've replaced always have some sort of wear on the teeth.Some real bad,but some customers can't afford new flex plate and take the gamble and just replace starter.Some make a lot of noise when cranking,but they just hope it last another,month,year or five. was going to have a friend from work do it but from the sounds of it I am better off having a mechanic do it. |
Originally Posted by mechelle207@yahoo.com
(Post 455269)
no codes to do with the starter at the time it was checked. have not been able to have it hooked up since as it does not move and I con't have the computer for it to be checked.
Maybe this could be why it was starting hard? How expensive are we talking? And could it be that the starter is fine but the ring gear needs replacing? \ was going to have a friend from work do it but from the sounds of it I am better off having a mechanic do it. If there are missing teeth, put starter on anyway, THEN turn engine -CCW- to start it and take to shop, ASAP No sense in paying the premium for shop replacement of starter if you dont have to. Adn teach your kid how to tell when the engine is started! Maybe if he watches under the hood while you start it, he'll get the connection. |
Originally Posted by pettyfog
(Post 455276)
No, Replace starter anyway.. chances of replacing ring gear -involves pulling transmission - without replacing starter too are next to ZERO. Starter gear teeth are certainly damaged anyway. Have your friend look for missing/ damaged teeth while he has starter out. Near edge wear is normal if it's uniform over all visible teeth
If there are missing teeth, put starter on anyway, THEN turn engine -CCW- to start it and take to shop, ASAP No sense in paying the premium for shop replacement of starter if you dont have to. Adn teach your kid how to tell when the engine is started! Maybe if he watches under the hood while you start it, he'll get the connection. This is the sound I am referring to.
Originally Posted by pettyfog
(Post 455276)
Adn teach your kid how to tell when the engine is started! Maybe if he watches under the hood while you start it, he'll get the connection.
I guess no one knows unless they are there when it happens and are able to diagnose it first hand. I know there is no one here that can specifically diagnose something without being there in person to do so. I do appreciate the help everyone is passing along though, I hope I am not coming across as a smart ass or ungrateful. |
I was referring to your note you thought a friend could do it. If you can find someone to do it will save you money.
And I'm not trying to be bitchy about your kid.. that stuff happens, and I'm the last can say I never trashed anything. Or that my kids didnt. From the sound, it may be only your starter. Certainly no teeth even trying to engage. Would have been a grinding noise to go along with it before this point. |
Originally Posted by pettyfog
(Post 455282)
I was referring to your note you thought a friend could do it. If you can find someone to do it will save you money.
And I'm not trying to be bitchy about your kid.. that stuff happens, and I'm the last can say I never trashed anything. Or that my kids didnt. From the sound, it may be only your starter. Certainly no teeth even trying to engage. Would have been a grinding noise to go along with it before this point. |
That was cool :)
I wish some of my customers would make a video to show me there problems when there vehicle won't start. Your sounds like your solenoid is gone on the starter. From the sound in the video your starter is just spinning and the solenoid is not pushing your starter drive out. Definitely have starter replaced. Example of prices in the Boston area; Price varies on starter,From about $125.00 up to $175.00(cost) Labor is about 1.9 hours. My shop rate is $80.00 an hour and would be $152.00 labor plus starter. Some garages will not let you bring in your own part and might charge you list price. A starter from the dealers in Boston,MA. area list out at $450.00. If you don't have a regular mechanic you go to,you can try calling a couple of garages to see what they would charge. If they use an aftermarket starter it might be $100.00 more than cost. |
Update
Put another starter in and that one got eaten up also so the vehicle is just going to be used to put towards the jeep that my parents are getting from the mechanic and I am buying my parents minivan. I'm just glad I didn't go buy a starter myself and have someone try to put it in because then I would be out the money for the starter so it all worked out. I'm thinking more than likely there is an electrical issue going on and it would be more costly to try and fix it. Thank you to everyone who helped out.
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I would look for a new mechanic for starters. This is a VERY simple diagnosis/repair for an expirienced mechanic. Starters have been failing since the 1920's. it isnt brain surgery for the people who work on them everyday.
Tell your kid he did nothing wrong. Trying to start a vehicle that is already broke will just make the kid feel like crap that he was the one who broke it even more! Good luck! |
Originally Posted by kristoph30
(Post 456472)
I would look for a new mechanic for starters. This is a VERY simple diagnosis/repair for an expirienced mechanic. Starters have been failing since the 1920's. it isnt brain surgery for the people who work on them everyday.
Tell your kid he did nothing wrong. Trying to start a vehicle that is already broke will just make the kid feel like crap that he was the one who broke it even more! Good luck! My son knows that he didn't break it, it was something coming anyways, he just helped it along and actually did me a favor so that I didn't have to put any more money into it as I got my 4 1/2 yrs out of it. |
Based on the sound from the video, I would at least remove and bench test the starter. It could be a failed or weak solenoid on the starter that is not properly popping out the bendix (what pushes out a gear that engages the flywheel of the engine to turn it over).
While you are under there, you can pull out either the plastic plugs in the bottom of the transmission bell housing up against the engine oil pan, or remove the metal inspection cover to try and view the teeth on the flywheel. A mirror may be required if using the inspection cover location. |
Hi everybody, first time poster. My 1999 s10 is having this exact problem. I took the starter off and had it checked at two different O'reilly's and an autozone. All three relayed to me that the starter has no problems. I even asked if their tests checked if the solenoid was engaging or not, and they confirmed it was.
My question is, should I replace it anyways? My father is fairly mechanical oriented when it comes to cars and he can't figure it out, but he suggested I do it anyways. Is their anything else that could be causing a sound like this? Why would the tests show it not malfunctioning if it needs to be replaced? Thanks in advance. I don't know if people reply to these old threads, but I'd sure appreciate the advice. :) |
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