Title/ownership fight... Please help!
#81
01-07-2011, 09:36 AM
Not neccesarily, I have a few questions before i continue. Are you currently going to school? Do your parents have any sort of relationship with the school board? Have you talked to any teachers about it all?
#82
01-07-2011, 09:41 AM
Are you currently going to school? Yes. I'm a junior this year.
Do your parents have any sort of relationship with the school board? My dad is friends with the principal and the maintenence director (think that's what he's called).
Have you talked to any teachers about it all? Yes. I've talked to at least three teachers about it, including the counselor, who called Dad. Dad filled her full of his lies, and she isn't helping.
Do your parents have any sort of relationship with the school board? My dad is friends with the principal and the maintenence director (think that's what he's called).
Have you talked to any teachers about it all? Yes. I've talked to at least three teachers about it, including the counselor, who called Dad. Dad filled her full of his lies, and she isn't helping.
#83
01-07-2011, 10:04 AM
Alright, i can't wait to post it lol (i'm just being impatient today)
If yes:
I remember this from what my mom told me when she was 16, The school board can make you a ward of the state, rather than being a dependant of your parents, completly going over the heads of the police. If abuse is suspected by any guidance counciller or administrator in a students home life/outside of school, an administrator must contact a social worker, otherwise a worker for the school board to investigate any reported instance of abuse or neglect, The Social worker is supposed to be unbiased in his/her investigation to rather or not abuse/neglect has been done, being you are in technicality a minor this will apply to you. brb, switching computers for classes will update with references
Section 823.2. Reports of Child Abuse.
A. 1. The Department of Human Services shall establish a statewide centralized hotline for the reporting of child abuse or neglect to the Department.
2. The Department shall provide hotline-specific training including, but not limited to, interviewing skills, customer service skills, narrative writing, necessary computer systems, making case determinations, and identifying priority situations.
3. The Department is authorized to contract with third parties in order to train hotline workers.
4. The Department shall develop a system to track the number of calls received, and of that number:
a. the number of calls screened out,
b. the number of referrals assigned, and
c. the number of calls in which the allegations were later found to be unsubstantiated or ruled out.
B. 1. Every person having reason to believe that a child under the age of eighteen (18) years is a victim of abuse or neglect shall report the matter promptly to the Department of Human Services. Reports shall be made to the hotline provided for in subsection A of this section. Any allegation of abuse or neglect reported in any manner to a county office shall immediately be referred to the hotline by the Department. Provided, however, that in actions for custody by abandonment, provided for in Section 7 of this act, there shall be no reporting requirement.
2. Every physician, surgeon, or other health care professional including doctors of medicine, licensed osteopathic physicians, residents and interns, or any other health care professional attending the birth of a child who tests positive for alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance shall promptly report the matter to the Department.
3. No privilege or contract shall relieve any person from the requirement of reporting pursuant to this section.
4. The reporting obligations under this section are individual, and no employer, supervisor, or administrator shall interfere with the reporting obligations of any employee or other person or in any manner discriminate or retaliate against the employee or other person who in good faith reports suspected child abuse or neglect, or who provides testimony in any proceeding involving child abuse or neglect. Any employer, supervisor, or administrator who discharges, discriminates or retaliates against the employee or other person shall be liable for damages, costs and attorney fees.
5. Every physician, surgeon, or other health care professional making a report of abuse or neglect as required by this subsection or examining a child to determine the likelihood of abuse or neglect and every hospital or related institution in which the child was examined or treated shall provide, upon request, copies of the results of the examination or copies of the examination on which the report was based and any other clinical notes, x-rays, photographs, and other previous or current records relevant to the case to law enforcement officers conducting a criminal investigation into the case and to employees of the Department of Human Services conducting an investigation of alleged abuse or neglect in the case.
C. Any person who knowingly and willfully fails to promptly report suspected child abuse or neglect or who interferes with the prompt reporting of suspected child abuse or neglect may be reported to local law enforcement for criminal investigation and, upon conviction thereof, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
D. 1. Any person who knowingly and willfully makes a false report pursuant to the provisions of this section or a report that the person knows lacks factual foundation may be reported to local law enforcement for criminal investigation and, upon conviction thereof, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. If a court determines that an accusation of child abuse or neglect made during a child custody proceeding is false and the person making the accusation knew it to be false at the time the accusation was made, the court may impose a fine, not to exceed Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00) and reasonable attorney fees incurred in recovering the sanctions, against the person making the accusation. The remedy provided by this paragraph is in addition to paragraph 1 of this subsection or to any other remedy provided by law.
E. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to exempt or prohibit any person from reporting any suspected child abuse or neglect pursuant to subsection B of this section. (10A-1-2-101)
Note: Amended by HB 1964, Sec. 1 of the 2010 Reg. Sess.
Any person who has reason to believe that a child has been injured as a result of abuse or neglect must report such information, whether the information is current or historical, in all instances. March 20, 1995 (AG Op. No. 95-18)
Straight from Oklahoma School Law, i sourced and sourced i found it through all the clauses and searching
Straight from the website http://www.sde.state.ok.us/Law/LawBo...r7/C_7-A_I.htm
*edit again* Also check Section 823.9. Child Beating
This whole article is gold if what you have typed for us is true
If yes:
I remember this from what my mom told me when she was 16, The school board can make you a ward of the state, rather than being a dependant of your parents, completly going over the heads of the police. If abuse is suspected by any guidance counciller or administrator in a students home life/outside of school, an administrator must contact a social worker, otherwise a worker for the school board to investigate any reported instance of abuse or neglect, The Social worker is supposed to be unbiased in his/her investigation to rather or not abuse/neglect has been done, being you are in technicality a minor this will apply to you. brb, switching computers for classes will update with references
Section 823.2. Reports of Child Abuse.
A. 1. The Department of Human Services shall establish a statewide centralized hotline for the reporting of child abuse or neglect to the Department.
2. The Department shall provide hotline-specific training including, but not limited to, interviewing skills, customer service skills, narrative writing, necessary computer systems, making case determinations, and identifying priority situations.
3. The Department is authorized to contract with third parties in order to train hotline workers.
4. The Department shall develop a system to track the number of calls received, and of that number:
a. the number of calls screened out,
b. the number of referrals assigned, and
c. the number of calls in which the allegations were later found to be unsubstantiated or ruled out.
B. 1. Every person having reason to believe that a child under the age of eighteen (18) years is a victim of abuse or neglect shall report the matter promptly to the Department of Human Services. Reports shall be made to the hotline provided for in subsection A of this section. Any allegation of abuse or neglect reported in any manner to a county office shall immediately be referred to the hotline by the Department. Provided, however, that in actions for custody by abandonment, provided for in Section 7 of this act, there shall be no reporting requirement.
2. Every physician, surgeon, or other health care professional including doctors of medicine, licensed osteopathic physicians, residents and interns, or any other health care professional attending the birth of a child who tests positive for alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance shall promptly report the matter to the Department.
3. No privilege or contract shall relieve any person from the requirement of reporting pursuant to this section.
4. The reporting obligations under this section are individual, and no employer, supervisor, or administrator shall interfere with the reporting obligations of any employee or other person or in any manner discriminate or retaliate against the employee or other person who in good faith reports suspected child abuse or neglect, or who provides testimony in any proceeding involving child abuse or neglect. Any employer, supervisor, or administrator who discharges, discriminates or retaliates against the employee or other person shall be liable for damages, costs and attorney fees.
5. Every physician, surgeon, or other health care professional making a report of abuse or neglect as required by this subsection or examining a child to determine the likelihood of abuse or neglect and every hospital or related institution in which the child was examined or treated shall provide, upon request, copies of the results of the examination or copies of the examination on which the report was based and any other clinical notes, x-rays, photographs, and other previous or current records relevant to the case to law enforcement officers conducting a criminal investigation into the case and to employees of the Department of Human Services conducting an investigation of alleged abuse or neglect in the case.
C. Any person who knowingly and willfully fails to promptly report suspected child abuse or neglect or who interferes with the prompt reporting of suspected child abuse or neglect may be reported to local law enforcement for criminal investigation and, upon conviction thereof, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
D. 1. Any person who knowingly and willfully makes a false report pursuant to the provisions of this section or a report that the person knows lacks factual foundation may be reported to local law enforcement for criminal investigation and, upon conviction thereof, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. If a court determines that an accusation of child abuse or neglect made during a child custody proceeding is false and the person making the accusation knew it to be false at the time the accusation was made, the court may impose a fine, not to exceed Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00) and reasonable attorney fees incurred in recovering the sanctions, against the person making the accusation. The remedy provided by this paragraph is in addition to paragraph 1 of this subsection or to any other remedy provided by law.
E. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to exempt or prohibit any person from reporting any suspected child abuse or neglect pursuant to subsection B of this section. (10A-1-2-101)
Note: Amended by HB 1964, Sec. 1 of the 2010 Reg. Sess.
Any person who has reason to believe that a child has been injured as a result of abuse or neglect must report such information, whether the information is current or historical, in all instances. March 20, 1995 (AG Op. No. 95-18)
Straight from Oklahoma School Law, i sourced and sourced i found it through all the clauses and searching
Straight from the website http://www.sde.state.ok.us/Law/LawBo...r7/C_7-A_I.htm
*edit again* Also check Section 823.9. Child Beating
This whole article is gold if what you have typed for us is true
Last edited by 97CountryJukeboxLt; 01-07-2011 at 10:28 AM. Reason: adding
#84
01-07-2011, 10:36 AM
Your dad probably wont be fixing your truck, and in your situation I would refuse to pay for anything on his truck. How close are you to being able to graduate? Refer to what I qouted from an earlier post. I aksed ABN31B what the minumum age was for enlistment was. If your situation really sucks that bad, then joining the service would be a great way to go.
"Anyway youngest a kid can join is 17. They would have to be a junior, and mom AND dad would have to okay it. they would go to Basic Training during the summer and then AIT after graduation. That only works for the Reserves though. You can be 17 and join with mom and dad's okay so long as you graduate HS and turn 18 before training is done." direct qoute from Abn31B.
The main reason why I asked is depending on how soon you can graduate, and how soon you turn 17, why not ask your parents to send to the real "boot camp"? Just might be the best direction that you could go at this point in your life. Nothing to loose and everything to gain!
"Anyway youngest a kid can join is 17. They would have to be a junior, and mom AND dad would have to okay it. they would go to Basic Training during the summer and then AIT after graduation. That only works for the Reserves though. You can be 17 and join with mom and dad's okay so long as you graduate HS and turn 18 before training is done." direct qoute from Abn31B.
The main reason why I asked is depending on how soon you can graduate, and how soon you turn 17, why not ask your parents to send to the real "boot camp"? Just might be the best direction that you could go at this point in your life. Nothing to loose and everything to gain!
#85
01-07-2011, 12:17 PM
I wasn't wanting any military thing, that's why I'm trying so hard to avoid boot camp.
Well, even though the counselor knows/has known about my situation for years, she still hasn't reported anything. If they are supposed to report it, I'm curious as to why it hasn't been...
I think something is going on here, bigger than we think. I mean, it seems strange that everybody in a position to help me is not. I wonder what's going on.
Btw, I was talking with a teacher today, asking for advice. Everyone (the police, my parents, etc) has been threatening me with becoming a ward of the state. Everyone all says that if I become a ward of the state, the state will lock me up, but this teacher says that's bull. He also said that the state will more than likely let me choose where it is that I go, especially if there are people out there who are willing to take me in. How true is this? Would it apply if my parents send me to the state? I mean, I could understand them letting me choose where to stay if I got taken from my parents, but what if they actually send me off to the state?
If abuse is suspected by any guidance counciller or administrator in a students home life/outside of school, an administrator must contact a social worker, otherwise a worker for the school board to investigate any reported instance of abuse or neglect, The Social worker is supposed to be unbiased in his/her investigation to rather or not abuse/neglect has been done, being you are in technicality a minor this will apply to you.
I think something is going on here, bigger than we think. I mean, it seems strange that everybody in a position to help me is not. I wonder what's going on.
Btw, I was talking with a teacher today, asking for advice. Everyone (the police, my parents, etc) has been threatening me with becoming a ward of the state. Everyone all says that if I become a ward of the state, the state will lock me up, but this teacher says that's bull. He also said that the state will more than likely let me choose where it is that I go, especially if there are people out there who are willing to take me in. How true is this? Would it apply if my parents send me to the state? I mean, I could understand them letting me choose where to stay if I got taken from my parents, but what if they actually send me off to the state?
Last edited by JTalley; 01-07-2011 at 12:20 PM.
#86
01-07-2011, 12:35 PM
I dont know about there but I had a friend who emancipated himself from his parents, he lived with a friend and his family after that, they no longer had any rights to him, but thats Cali...dont know about there.
I dont think the military is the way to go.
I dont think the military is the way to go.
#89
01-07-2011, 01:30 PM
I hate to hear/read about this kind of thing. My wife went through a VERY physically/emotionally abusive childhood and it took a fair amount of my pushing while we were still in high school to get her out. My little brothers girlfriend grew up in much the same manner and it took going to school with openly bleeding gashes on and around her face and head, back, arms, etc. from a belt with a metal clip on the end of it to get the school to become involved and get her out. The gashes required over 164 stitches in total for the gashes that could still be sewn if that gives anyone a true idea of the severity of the injuries she received. The schools are unreliable at best for help since the parents will make up whatever BS story they can to pass off the incident. In both my wife's and brother's girlfriend's cases they had even gone to school with black eyes, busted lips, etc. and the school believed the parents when the parents said that they made someone do that to them just to get attention.
Jtalley, I can fully understand the position you're in. I wish I had some great advice to give instant relief to the situation. One thing I can say for certain is don't do anything stupid because you're frustrated, it won't help at all and will only give all those who are opposing you more fuel. A simple, cheap sound recorder and the camera on your phone are your best friends right now. The more evidence you can collect, the more ground you have to stand on. Be sure, as you collect said evidence to get it in the possession of your trusted friend and his mother, your allies in this war. If you leave ANY evidence where it can be found by anyone involved, it will be gone and you'll pay the price for it, I know. You've got a tough road ahead and from what it sounds as though you've been through in the past, you have the strength to stay the course and get it ended on your terms. I highly doubt, unless you have any sort of criminal counts on your juvenile record that you'll end up in any sort of state ran juvenile disciplinary facility. My brothers girlfriend was a ward of the state for 3 years and spent only a few months in a group home while she was between foster families. If you have no criminal record, I wouldn't worry much about that.
Good luck my friend, prayers go out for you from all of us I'm sure. Some people have such a hard time believing things like this can happen and the scariest part is that this and other stories are only the ones we've heard about. Situations like this are happening all over all the time with few people outside the ring of those involved ever knowing about it. People need to wake up and realize that it's never going to end unless people stop turning their heads and start doing something about it.
Jtalley, I can fully understand the position you're in. I wish I had some great advice to give instant relief to the situation. One thing I can say for certain is don't do anything stupid because you're frustrated, it won't help at all and will only give all those who are opposing you more fuel. A simple, cheap sound recorder and the camera on your phone are your best friends right now. The more evidence you can collect, the more ground you have to stand on. Be sure, as you collect said evidence to get it in the possession of your trusted friend and his mother, your allies in this war. If you leave ANY evidence where it can be found by anyone involved, it will be gone and you'll pay the price for it, I know. You've got a tough road ahead and from what it sounds as though you've been through in the past, you have the strength to stay the course and get it ended on your terms. I highly doubt, unless you have any sort of criminal counts on your juvenile record that you'll end up in any sort of state ran juvenile disciplinary facility. My brothers girlfriend was a ward of the state for 3 years and spent only a few months in a group home while she was between foster families. If you have no criminal record, I wouldn't worry much about that.
Good luck my friend, prayers go out for you from all of us I'm sure. Some people have such a hard time believing things like this can happen and the scariest part is that this and other stories are only the ones we've heard about. Situations like this are happening all over all the time with few people outside the ring of those involved ever knowing about it. People need to wake up and realize that it's never going to end unless people stop turning their heads and start doing something about it.
#90
01-07-2011, 01:51 PM
Well, I dont usually share but my mom was the same way, mentally, emotionally and physically abusive, she did daycare and did the same to those kids, wasnt till I had my daughter I relized something was not right because I knew I would never do those things to my child...I disowned my parents and sister who is covering up **** for her, they are never alowed around my kids, we moved and made sure they dont know where we live because she would just show up and pick fights, shes threatened to kill me and pulled a knife out in front of my kids, she even told them she was going to let our rabbits go free so they would be eaten....no one knows and most dont believe it because to outsiders shes very sweet and humble...shes a crazy bitch.
I know how ya feel.
I know how ya feel.