Mods for MPGs
#11
IMO the best MPG mods are keeping tires inflated properly, alignment, Delco electrics, O2 sensors in check, filters changed regularly, a bottle of gas line/injector cleaner every 3 tanks or so for good measure. CAI sounds great, may help a bit for MPG in lower mph & the same with freeing up the exhaust a bit. But a single in/dual out will still have the bottle neck of the Y pipe before it hits the muffler. Same with a high flow cat. True duals & headers are expensive & not worth it unless the engine has been modified to make use of it.
Oh yeah, the single most gas saving thing you can do is not drive like you stole it! Keep the revs under 2500 while accelerating.
My ride? I know nothing for gas mileage lol... a friend who has a 2000 Ford Excursion V10 said: if you have a super charger or a V10, you're not thinking about miles per gallon, you don't care!
Oh yeah, the single most gas saving thing you can do is not drive like you stole it! Keep the revs under 2500 while accelerating.
My ride? I know nothing for gas mileage lol... a friend who has a 2000 Ford Excursion V10 said: if you have a super charger or a V10, you're not thinking about miles per gallon, you don't care!
#13
One guy one paper and one of two references 'carburetor heat' which is a WHOLE DIFFERENT concept.
I dont mind out of the box concepts, I dont mind that public money pays his salary but I sure would like someone to go in there and blow that out of the water.
Evidently not all the educated idiots are in the climate sciences. Want to support your theory? Ignore all empirical facts and data to the contrary.
Now.. lets address the 'work' expended in pulling against intake restrictions:
Yes.. there is more power required on the intake stroke to pull against a vacuum of up to 10 lbs.. which is immediately made up for by the lesser pressure/force required for the compression stroke.
- This is why I hoot at the idea CAI's improve economy.
Test it for yourself. Have a small compressor? Put your hand or thumb over the intake port.
Is there something to it? Yeah.. that's why there is 'Direct Injection'. But that has a whole new set of considerations, doesnt it? So.. if you want to build a WAI for the warmup cycle, to include a diversion butterfly, have at it and report the results. IMO it isnt worth it for the short period of time that it has an effect.
Last edited by pettyfog; 03-30-2012 at 05:17 AM.
#15
Would involve a logic latch set by injector firing, and triggered by the ign module.
If there was a microcontroller freak on here, I'd partner up to design a 'lean burn' spoofing system for warm idle in park, and highway cruise.
SHOULD be able to do that with EGR tuning alone.. dunno why it doesnt seem to affect. I think adding an exhaust gas temp monitor is needed for that.
Last edited by pettyfog; 03-30-2012 at 06:58 AM.
#17
It isn't that much more than stock (IIRC, stock is 45k) and less reliable IMO. Stick with stock ignition components or you'll be chasing problems!
#18
I've done this" IT WORKS"
So I hear there are no performance chips for blazers, just reprogramming the PCM. Where can I get this done and what kind of mod programs are for it? Are there some physical mods you can do to the engine other than a cold air intake for more power and a little extra mpg???
#19
Hi, Stretch.chad,
Does this work at a '02 blazer?
Do you have pictures for me where I can see how you did this all?
thanx alot.
Does this work at a '02 blazer?
Do you have pictures for me where I can see how you did this all?
thanx alot.
Last edited by Hank; 11-01-2014 at 12:26 PM. Reason: text
#20
Both the throttle blade & MAF "mods" have been discussed before and in much more detail in other threads. I had measured all of the openings in the intake system to show the futility of descreening the MAF sensor in one thread somewhere around here. Anyway, I had done both on my old 2000 Bravada with no appreciable change in mileage.
The MAF screen removal resulted in VERY erratic MAF sensor readings as viewed from my Autotap scantool that I had at the time and, in multiple accounts here, no real gain in MPGs over a long period of monitoring mileage. Over a 10k mile interval before I went back to a stock MAF with screen in place I noticed no change in mileage and the aforementioned erratic MAF signal. The reason for the screen is to straighten out the air flow over the sensor elements so that the PCM gets a good average reading of the air going through the sensor and into the engine. The MAF sensor with screen still represents a much larger area than the throttle body opening making any gains from this "mod" insignificant at best and actually detrimental to performance at worse. Any gains from removing the screen are a result of changed driving habits during the observation interval.
The throttle blade mod only increases the sensitivity of the throttle. Over a long period (just over 20k miles) of driving without the deflector, I noted a difference in spark plug color from the front three cylinders to the back three with the back three being MUCH cleaner. Leaving an 1/8" of the deflector in place will help to alleviate this problem as the deflector serves to cut off airflow from the front side of the throttle blade at low throttle angles, pushing air towards the center of the intake plenum allowing incoming fresh air to properly mix with the EGR gasses before entering the runner to the cylinders. Same as with the MAF descreening, I noticed no change in mileage over an extended interval. The throttle sensitivity also got kind of annoying.
The MAF screen removal resulted in VERY erratic MAF sensor readings as viewed from my Autotap scantool that I had at the time and, in multiple accounts here, no real gain in MPGs over a long period of monitoring mileage. Over a 10k mile interval before I went back to a stock MAF with screen in place I noticed no change in mileage and the aforementioned erratic MAF signal. The reason for the screen is to straighten out the air flow over the sensor elements so that the PCM gets a good average reading of the air going through the sensor and into the engine. The MAF sensor with screen still represents a much larger area than the throttle body opening making any gains from this "mod" insignificant at best and actually detrimental to performance at worse. Any gains from removing the screen are a result of changed driving habits during the observation interval.
The throttle blade mod only increases the sensitivity of the throttle. Over a long period (just over 20k miles) of driving without the deflector, I noted a difference in spark plug color from the front three cylinders to the back three with the back three being MUCH cleaner. Leaving an 1/8" of the deflector in place will help to alleviate this problem as the deflector serves to cut off airflow from the front side of the throttle blade at low throttle angles, pushing air towards the center of the intake plenum allowing incoming fresh air to properly mix with the EGR gasses before entering the runner to the cylinders. Same as with the MAF descreening, I noticed no change in mileage over an extended interval. The throttle sensitivity also got kind of annoying.