ROTM Nominations Discussion
The staff and other members have noticed that the ROTM nomination procedure is in need of some help to spark some better interest. This started off as a discussion in the nominations thread for the November ROTM, but I thought it more prudent to move it out into a thread of it's own. There have been some good recommendations, but I would like to hear from more people. I have my own ideas and have been trying to think of some more, but I am only one person. So I (we) need your help!
Here are what a few others have to say:
If I left out a quote that you made, don't take it the wrong way. I have limited time right now to wade through everything on the site due to work and am trying to get this stuff figured out as well. Sorry if I forgot your quote, but just post it here again!!
And now, here are my thoughts:
I have been thinking about this for awhile now, but with everything else going on haven't had time to implement anything. I think we should limit the number of nominations to one per person. Do away with seconding all together. I like the lottery aspect and have found a list randomizer online (random.org) that would make this work. Hold open nominations for the first 10 days of the month. In the nominations thread, it will be the job of the nominator to add to the list of nominees.
So say I nominate Dave (davtak) and I am the first to nominate. I start off by stating:
1. davtak - swartlkk
Now if Dave nominates Lenny (lennyblazer) he'll copy Dave's nomination and add his:
1. davtak - swartlkk
2. lennyblazer - davtak
And so on until the 10 days are up. If there are posts at or around the same time and one ends up being incorrect, then please edit your post to keep the order (I'll help out with that as well).
At the end of the 10 days, I'll take the list that is left and put it into the list randomizer and the top 5 will be our nominees. Heck, we could even do different things like invert the list and have the bottom 5 or use only the odd numbers (that could be a poll over the first 10 days of the nominations!). It could get much more fun this way and there would be a lot of luck involved wit
Here are what a few others have to say:
ORIGINAL: Mbastet99
Not to get this all complicated, but maybe the problem is how quickly the 5 get chosen and the method....
Don't get me wrong, I check BF every day to see what's up, but I always seem to forget about the ROTM until a few days after the 1st of the month, and by then it's already been decided who the 5 are.
Maybe some kind of "open" nominations for the first week, and then some way to decide who the final 5 should be (least nominated previously or something like that?). Or a random selection of 5 people who have posted in the previous month that have been members long enough to be eligible (if it is possible by computer program or such to do this)?
I agree that it's just for fun, but wouldn't it be more fun if it were a surprise who the 5 were? Maybe they could be PMed by the administrator to make sure they wanted to be entered?
And no, this is not sour grapes just because I'm one of the "never been nominated" (I love my Blazer whether it wins anything or not, just so long as it makes me happy), but there are lots of other Blazers on BF that I do admire.
Just my two cents, any one else got change?
Not to get this all complicated, but maybe the problem is how quickly the 5 get chosen and the method....
Don't get me wrong, I check BF every day to see what's up, but I always seem to forget about the ROTM until a few days after the 1st of the month, and by then it's already been decided who the 5 are.
Maybe some kind of "open" nominations for the first week, and then some way to decide who the final 5 should be (least nominated previously or something like that?). Or a random selection of 5 people who have posted in the previous month that have been members long enough to be eligible (if it is possible by computer program or such to do this)?
I agree that it's just for fun, but wouldn't it be more fun if it were a surprise who the 5 were? Maybe they could be PMed by the administrator to make sure they wanted to be entered?
And no, this is not sour grapes just because I'm one of the "never been nominated" (I love my Blazer whether it wins anything or not, just so long as it makes me happy), but there are lots of other Blazers on BF that I do admire.
Just my two cents, any one else got change?
ORIGINAL: lennyblazer
I think that if we had open nominations for a week, then we could select the 5 that were seconded the most. Everyone would be able to nominate 3people they wanted, then they could second 3 people. This way it might be a little more fair and then people know that the nominations would take place the first week of the month, because 3 weeks is long enough for voting. Just my opinion
I think that if we had open nominations for a week, then we could select the 5 that were seconded the most. Everyone would be able to nominate 3people they wanted, then they could second 3 people. This way it might be a little more fair and then people know that the nominations would take place the first week of the month, because 3 weeks is long enough for voting. Just my opinion
And now, here are my thoughts:
I have been thinking about this for awhile now, but with everything else going on haven't had time to implement anything. I think we should limit the number of nominations to one per person. Do away with seconding all together. I like the lottery aspect and have found a list randomizer online (random.org) that would make this work. Hold open nominations for the first 10 days of the month. In the nominations thread, it will be the job of the nominator to add to the list of nominees.
So say I nominate Dave (davtak) and I am the first to nominate. I start off by stating:
1. davtak - swartlkk
Now if Dave nominates Lenny (lennyblazer) he'll copy Dave's nomination and add his:
1. davtak - swartlkk
2. lennyblazer - davtak
And so on until the 10 days are up. If there are posts at or around the same time and one ends up being incorrect, then please edit your post to keep the order (I'll help out with that as well).
At the end of the 10 days, I'll take the list that is left and put it into the list randomizer and the top 5 will be our nominees. Heck, we could even do different things like invert the list and have the bottom 5 or use only the odd numbers (that could be a poll over the first 10 days of the nominations!). It could get much more fun this way and there would be a lot of luck involved wit
I posted one too in the earlier posts of this months rotm. My thought is that one person can't be nominated more than twice or three times in a row and one person can't nominate more than two people and the same for seconding. Some people are nominating alot of people and I agree that the five for voting are being picked way too quickly. The idea you had about nominating people for the first week and then randomly chosing the top five sounds like a real good idea to me. If you need a moderaor for this, I'd be happy to lend a hand. I'm on here whenever I get free time.
Dave and Kyle, I like your thoughts, but if we can't nominate somebody more than two or three months in a row then the 'randomization' aspect could keep that person from ever getting into the final pool. I see no need for 'seconding'. Let's take the nominees names (whatever number limit is decided), put them into the 'randomizer' and let nature take its course. We can then vote from the first 5, or however many, that pop up from that group. I would suggest that a member be limited to 2 or 3 wins per 12 month period; that way more people get a shot at it. After all, it's really just an honorary award and I would like to see more members get a chance at being declared the winner.
Was this rambling enough?
Was this rambling enough?
We already have a 1 win per calendar year limit and that was set to lay the ground work for a ROTY which I didn't get around to doing this year...
I think it would be way to complicated to keep track of who has been nominated over the last 2 or 3 months to impose such a rule, but I am keeping an open mind with all of this so keep the ideas flowing!
I think it would be way to complicated to keep track of who has been nominated over the last 2 or 3 months to impose such a rule, but I am keeping an open mind with all of this so keep the ideas flowing!
I see your point. People can only win once year anyway, so if people get nominated every month or evry other month (you get my point), they will win sooner or later hopefully. I think that the random drawing thing will make it a lot more exciting to see who is going to go for rotm every month. Do you have an idea for a limit onhow many people getnominatedor how many each person can nominatebecause I've seen some poeple nominate like 3 people and second a couple too. That is a little too much cause I think that takes away from other people who want to nominate someone. This way, everybody is going to get a chance to be either nominated or to nominate thier favorite for rotm. This is going to work well I think.
Yeah, I agree that there should be no limit on how many times a person can be nominated, but you can only win once per year. So then the 12 winners are automatically in the pool for ROTY in December.
I also don't think the same person should be able to win ROTY twice in a row. It doesn't seem likely this would happen anyway, but you never know.
I also like the randomization idea of picking the five candidates per month.
I also don't think the same person should be able to win ROTY twice in a row. It doesn't seem likely this would happen anyway, but you never know.
I also like the randomization idea of picking the five candidates per month.
I like the new system you've come up with.
I think we should also setprerequisites(sp?) for ride of the month. I think maybe you should have at least one performance, one cosmetic, and one audio/visual electronicmod to be able to be nominated. I've seen some over the last few months who are getting nominated just because of who they are.
As davtak said... I'll volunteer to help monitor and moderateROTM if you need me to.
I think we should also setprerequisites(sp?) for ride of the month. I think maybe you should have at least one performance, one cosmetic, and one audio/visual electronicmod to be able to be nominated. I've seen some over the last few months who are getting nominated just because of who they are.
As davtak said... I'll volunteer to help monitor and moderateROTM if you need me to.
My opinion is that it isn't the ride alone, but obviously that isn't shared by many others. To require one mod in each of those categories is asking a lot. My point is that someone could own a bone stock, showroom quality 93 Blazer (for lack of a better example) and if they didn't have anything done to it other than it still being pristene, they couldn't participate in ROTM. To require mods to be eligible isn't practical at all, IMO
Anyway, here are the revised rules from DodgeIntrepid.net, where I started out my forum activity so many years ago. They recently went through a total revamp of their COTM. There was a controversy over the administration of the previous method that did away with the whole thing. Anyway, read on if you have some time to kill:
[quote]NOTE: This is a cleaned up copy of the original announcement. This thread has the answers to the concerns raised by the members along with the outline of the contest.
Due to popular demand, the administration has decided that DI.net will once again have a monthly contest where the members select a car to become the "Car Of The Month". We can all pretty much agree that IOM is dead. While this new contest is similar, there are going to be some major changes to make things more fair and less of a burden on the administration than IOM had become.
Because this is a new contest, all previous winners of IOM will be eligible to win. Please keep in mind though that there are many deserving cars that did not win IOM and it would be nice to see the owners of these cars get some recognition. There are many members of this site who have moved on from their LH vehicles but continue to visit the site and modify their new cars. We are opening this contest to all makes and models so they will now be eligible to win as well.
The nomination and voting process will be different as well. The COTM team will make an announcement on the home page when nominations will be accepted. All members will have one week to submit their nomination to the team via PM. These PM's should have the name of the person you would like to nominate for the subject, and nothing else. No messages will be opened and if the name is not in the subject line the message will be ignored. The nominations will then be reviewed by the members of the COTM team who will decide which 5 cars will be eligible to win for that month. The names of these members will then be announced on the home page, along with a link to the voting poll. To combat cheating and make things more fair for the nominees, voting will be limited to premiere and platinum members only. Please keep in mind that all members are still allowed to submit nominations and are also eligible to win. Voting will be open for one week and the winner will then be announced.
The COTM team will monitor the process carefully to ensure that their is no dishonest behavior occuring. Remember that this is a friendly competition and it is only for fun.
Additionally, no abuse of the COTM team will be tolerated, This includes unkind rep messages and negative comments in the forums. If there is something that you think is unfair or if you have a suggestion to make please do so in a PM to the team. We're all adults here and starting a thread for the purpose of complaining accomplishes nothing.
Good luck to everyone!
01-05-2007, 04:40 PM #2
Your concern is understandable. Just keep in mind that nominations will come from the members and will be reviewed by the panel. This is one of the reasons why the panel is in place. It was expanded to all cars f
Anyway, here are the revised rules from DodgeIntrepid.net, where I started out my forum activity so many years ago. They recently went through a total revamp of their COTM. There was a controversy over the administration of the previous method that did away with the whole thing. Anyway, read on if you have some time to kill:
[quote]NOTE: This is a cleaned up copy of the original announcement. This thread has the answers to the concerns raised by the members along with the outline of the contest.
Due to popular demand, the administration has decided that DI.net will once again have a monthly contest where the members select a car to become the "Car Of The Month". We can all pretty much agree that IOM is dead. While this new contest is similar, there are going to be some major changes to make things more fair and less of a burden on the administration than IOM had become.
Because this is a new contest, all previous winners of IOM will be eligible to win. Please keep in mind though that there are many deserving cars that did not win IOM and it would be nice to see the owners of these cars get some recognition. There are many members of this site who have moved on from their LH vehicles but continue to visit the site and modify their new cars. We are opening this contest to all makes and models so they will now be eligible to win as well.
The nomination and voting process will be different as well. The COTM team will make an announcement on the home page when nominations will be accepted. All members will have one week to submit their nomination to the team via PM. These PM's should have the name of the person you would like to nominate for the subject, and nothing else. No messages will be opened and if the name is not in the subject line the message will be ignored. The nominations will then be reviewed by the members of the COTM team who will decide which 5 cars will be eligible to win for that month. The names of these members will then be announced on the home page, along with a link to the voting poll. To combat cheating and make things more fair for the nominees, voting will be limited to premiere and platinum members only. Please keep in mind that all members are still allowed to submit nominations and are also eligible to win. Voting will be open for one week and the winner will then be announced.
The COTM team will monitor the process carefully to ensure that their is no dishonest behavior occuring. Remember that this is a friendly competition and it is only for fun.
Additionally, no abuse of the COTM team will be tolerated, This includes unkind rep messages and negative comments in the forums. If there is something that you think is unfair or if you have a suggestion to make please do so in a PM to the team. We're all adults here and starting a thread for the purpose of complaining accomplishes nothing.
Good luck to everyone!
01-05-2007, 04:40 PM #2
Originally Posted by Bimmer_2002
I'm glad that we finally have a COTM contest. Only thing I don't agree with is the fact that non-LH cars are eligible to win. It kind of defies the point of this club....Anyways, I respect the rules and won't complain. Again this is just my opinion.....When do we start nominating????
I'm glad that we finally have a COTM contest. Only thing I don't agree with is the fact that non-LH cars are eligible to win. It kind of defies the point of this club....Anyways, I respect the rules and won't complain. Again this is just my opinion.....When do we start nominating????
I see what you mean there. Half baked idea. Maybe we should limit it to at least a clean Blazer if not a heavily modded one.
Even though most POS Blazers wouldn't be nominated...
Nevermind.
Even though most POS Blazers wouldn't be nominated...
Nevermind.





