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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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My problem now is that the hard plastic tubing's are breaking off almost at the touch. Can that stuff be replaced? I know I'm working with an 18 year old vehicle, but it's my 2020! I gotta fix this thing.
Are you referring to the plastic tubing for the tee fitting, the vacuum check valve (a one-way vacuum valve), and the fittings to the intake manifold? If so, yes they can be replaced and replacements can be found. If the nipple for the vacuum reservoir has broken off, then that is a more difficult item to replace because of its position. However, I would think a stand-alone vacuum reservoir from an earlier Blazer or S10 could be easily retrofitted if needed.

Funny thing, my 1982 Honda Prelude has very many more rubber vacuum lines than my Blazer yet those originals are in perfect shape all these years later.
 
Old Feb 29, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by christine_208
Are you referring to the plastic tubing for the tee fitting, the vacuum check valve (a one-way vacuum valve), and the fittings to the intake manifold? If so, yes they can be replaced and replacements can be found. If the nipple for the vacuum reservoir has broken off, then that is a more difficult item to replace because of its position. However, I would think a stand-alone vacuum reservoir from an earlier Blazer or S10 could be easily retrofitted if needed.

Funny thing, my 1982 Honda Prelude has very many more rubber vacuum lines than my Blazer yet those originals are in perfect shape all these years later.
Funny how that happens, isn't it? I can remember when I loathed "rice buckets" (the terrible name we called Japanese manufactured vehicles). But the quality of the Hondas, from, I know, my '87-'92 (I had a slew of them), and my '87 Celica, left me with the opinon that all you gotta do is keep the oil changed, and those things would run forever.
Funny how that happens....
 
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Christine, I bought an OEM Vacuum Reservoir and installed it in my '02 Blazer. The reservoir has two nipples. One larger than the other one. All photos that I see of earlier S10's have one hose going from/to the check valve, and the other hoses are in place. But this smaller inlet/outlet has no line to go to it. So, naturally, I put a hose on it, and plugged it with a bolt. It seems that my cab vents are functioning correctly, with the strange exception of hot air takes a while to come out. The flow is good, but on a cold morning, when I warm up the vehicle, the warm air only flows when I accelerate. After that, it's all good. That's not what I'm used to,but it beats nothing, I guess.... Anything else to look for with that hose?
 
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Christine, I bought an OEM Vacuum Reservoir and installed it in my '02 Blazer. The reservoir has two nipples. One larger than the other one. All photos that I see of earlier S10's have one hose going from/to the check valve, and the other hoses are in place. But this smaller inlet/outlet has no line to go to it. So, naturally, I put a hose on it, and plugged it with a bolt. It seems that my cab vents are functioning correctly, with the strange exception of hot air takes a while to come out. The flow is good, but on a cold morning, when I warm up the vehicle, the warm air only flows when I accelerate. After that, it's all good. That's not what I'm used to,but it beats nothing, I guess.... Anything else to look for with that hose?
Did you get one of those earlier ball-shaped vacuum canisters?

As for the heat, there is what is called a "slave door" that works to direct heat through the heater core but if the rest of the vacuum system is ok, then that one normally is ok too. The temperature, amount of heat, is controlled by an electro-mechanical device, the Blend-Door Actuator. But when those fail, they tend to stop working all-together with the blend-door stuck either in the full hot or full cold position.

When you say you only get heat when you accelerate, are you saying that the air flow is strong and to where you direct it but only when you accelerate the engine (even when not in gear) will the temperature rise? And then, once the air coming out is at a warmer temperature it stays at that warmer temperature? I ask as normally when the engine goes faster, there is less vacuum rather than more. It is hard to imagine how changing the engine speed could help but these vacuum systems are funny. Some of the vacuum actuators work both ways with needing vacuum on both sides. But there also could be some lack of coolant flow through the heater core itself I guess.

But it does sound like things are working much better. Did you also check the one-way valve to make sure it is working fine?
 
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Originally Posted by christine_208
Did you get one of those earlier ball-shaped vacuum canisters?

As for the heat, there is what is called a "slave door" that works to direct heat through the heater core but if the rest of the vacuum system is ok, then that one normally is ok too. The temperature, amount of heat, is controlled by an electro-mechanical device, the Blend-Door Actuator. But when those fail, they tend to stop working all-together with the blend-door stuck either in the full hot or full cold position.

When you say you only get heat when you accelerate, are you saying that the air flow is strong and to where you direct it but only when you accelerate the engine (even when not in gear) will the temperature rise? And then, once the air coming out is at a warmer temperature it stays at that warmer temperature? I ask as normally when the engine goes faster, there is less vacuum rather than more. It is hard to imagine how changing the engine speed could help but these vacuum systems are funny. Some of the vacuum actuators work both ways with needing vacuum on both sides. But there also could be some lack of coolant flow through the heater core itself I guess.

But it does sound like things are working much better. Did you also check the one-way valve to make sure it is working fine?
Yeah, things are much better. I plan to check that my coolant levels are optimum as well. I had to replace the radiator last summer because the fan exploded and took the radiator, and the fan shroud, out. I refilled it with A/F, but really hadn't looked at it since. Figured that all of the new stuff, hoses, clamps, and all, coupled with seeing no leaks, or hearing no sizzles, that all was well. Gonna check top make sure. That was a suggestion by DonL. But thank you for your help. You're my new "Shero"!!!
 

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Originally Posted by djbillyd
Yeah, things are much better. I plan to check that my coolant levels are optimum as well. I had to replace the radiator last summer because the fan exploded and took the radiator, and the fan shroud, out. I refilled it with A/F, but really hadn't looked at it since. Figured that all of the new stuff, hoses, clamps, and all, coupled with seeing no leaks, or hearing no sizzles, that all was well. Gonna check top make sure. That was a suggestion by DonL. But thank you for your help. You're my new "Shero"!!!
Apparently, our cooling systems can get air bubbles in them due to the heater hoses being higher than the radiator cap. My driveway having an incline I think helps move any trapped air out of mine. It is worth a look.

Glad my posts helped!
 
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Originally Posted by christine_208
Apparently, our cooling systems can get air bubbles in them due to the heater hoses being higher than the radiator cap. My driveway having an incline I think helps move any trapped air out of mine. It is worth a look.

Glad my posts helped!
KUDOS! My driveway is as level as a lake surface, but I think I can probably deal with it. I tell you, I manipulated the flow by reversing the hoses and it appears, at least for now, that the heat comes pretty quickly. Before, when I cranked up, and let the engine run for 5-7 minutes, the air from the outlet was ice cold. Yesterday morning, after doing the hose thing, it heated up as soon as it moved the Temp needle. But really, DonL's suggestion about the coolant, made the biggest difference. When I looked into the top of the radiator, it was dry. The reservoir was extremely low. I really hadn't checked it because I never had a problem with the heating temp until the vacuum hose replacement. I think the combination of you guys pointing me in the right directions has solved my problem. Thank you both!
 
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Glad to hear everything is working out!
 
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Glad to hear everything is working out!
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KUDOS! My driveway is as level as a lake surface, but I think I can probably deal with it. I tell you, I manipulated the flow by reversing the hoses and it appears, at least for now, that the heat comes pretty quickly. Before, when I cranked up, and let the engine run for 5-7 minutes, the air from the outlet was ice cold. Yesterday morning, after doing the hose thing, it heated up as soon as it moved the Temp needle. But really, DonL's suggestion about the coolant, made the biggest difference. When I looked into the top of the radiator, it was dry. The reservoir was extremely low. I really hadn't checked it because I never had a problem with the heating temp until the vacuum hose replacement. I think the combination of you guys pointing me in the right directions has solved my problem. Thank you both!
Yeah! It is always nice to have fix that doesn't break the bank either!
 
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Originally Posted by christine_208
Actually, the light-green line is the one that supplies vacuum to everything else. It is connected to a port on the left side of the upper intake plenum.

My 1999 transfer case is only electronically controlled with no vacuum hoses attached to it.

As for the HVAC line, yes it goes through the firewall below and to the outside of the brake vacuum assist can. It goes to the HVAC controller

If you can direct the air flow of the HVAC system to the window and to the instrument panel but not down below for heat, yes, you might have a mechanical issue. Hopefully the fix will be something simple such as reattaching the actuator arm.
Hello... I can not for the life of me find where the green intake manifold vacuum line goes. I've been looking for at least 30 minutes. hahaha. My vacuum line was running in between a tube that runs to the intake and the valve cover... it was just loose sitting there.

Can someone send a pic of where on the intake that line should run? Would be super helpful.
 



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