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prevolts?

Old Feb 15, 2006 | 04:18 AM
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Sound is objective, what sounds good to me will sound like crap to others and vice-versa. You could continue debating this till the end of time, you're not going to get anywhere with it nor find anykind of proof anywhere.

Just my two cents that were'nt called for.
 
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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well SQ in definition is accuracy of reproduction. So that is subjective. But when using the term SQ in a less technicall/more applicable sense, it truely is subjective.
 
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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So now, rather than only stealing the reocording, we are also deciding how to listen to it so we like it best, right? I agree thats exactly what is happening, but what does this have to do with any classical notion of purity, accuracy or faithfull reproduction of sound?

You would probably all agree that there is no longer a standard that simply judges anything by its ability to faithfully reproduce the way the original sound was intented by the artist and his recording studio. How much credit is given to what the studio and artists work on, fight about and finally create? Does it even matter when all we worry about is how "we can create the sound WE wish to hear"?

Can any of you turn on your home theatre and simply watch any program you wish on the set and still get a FAITHFUL reproduction. Switch from Fox news to a modern digitally recorded movie featuring you favorite rap artists in the background? I dont mean reach for evry **** in the world, I mean just change channels. The way some folks have to "run" sound in their car, it gets hard to drive. Make sure you have an automatic and a remote or you'll never make it down the road?

As apperently missed somewhere, the amont of prevolt needed is dependent on THE NEXT STAGE. If its a good match, then it will work fine. The internal workings of a microphone may well be a good starting point. What would be the actual voltage created by the movement of the diaphram? Very small, right? So its the next stage that accepts this and couples it properly to be amplified some more.

All arguments about what is better based on only ONE END of the equation are completely useless and have absolutely no basis in scientific, electrical, digital, mathematical, or acoustic facts. Sorta like surfing with no wave, aint it??
 
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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So now, rather than only stealing the reocording, we are also deciding how to listen to it so we like it best, right? I agree thats exactly what is happening, but what does this have to do with any classical notion of purity, accuracy or faithfull reproduction of sound?

You would probably all agree that there is no longer a standard that simply judges anything by its ability to faithfully reproduce the way the original sound was intented by the artist and his recording studio. How much credit is given to what the studio and artists work on, fight about and finally create? Does it even matter when all we worry about is how "we can create the sound WE wish to hear"?

Can any of you turn on your home theatre and simply watch any program you wish on the set and still get a FAITHFUL reproduction. Switch from Fox news to a modern digitally recorded movie featuring you favorite rap artists in the background? I dont mean reach for evry **** in the world, I mean just change channels. The way some folks have to "run" sound in their car, it gets hard to drive. Make sure you have an automatic and a remote or you'll never make it down the road?

As apperently missed somewhere, the amont of prevolt needed is dependent on THE NEXT STAGE. If its a good match, then it will work fine. The internal workings of a microphone may well be a good starting point. What would be the actual voltage created by the movement of the diaphram? Very small, right? So its the next stage that accepts this and couples it properly to be amplified some more.

All arguments about what is better based on only ONE END of the equation are completely useless and have absolutely no basis in scientific, electrical, digital, mathematical, or acoustic facts. Sorta like surfing with no wave, aint it??
The error in your thinking is that all consumers should/should want to listen to their music exactly as it was intended to be listened to...to respect the artist. Thats just not the reality. Car audio consumers, along with all audio consumers, dont spend hundreds to thousands to tens of thousands of dollars on equipment so they can listen to their music how it was intended rather than how they like. It not about the artists, its about the consumer, the car audio enthusiast. If they decide they like the music as it was intended to be heard, then so be it. But that doesnt mean everyone should listen to it that way. I dont like the way most music i listen to was recorded. If i was the artist or producer, Id change it. But im not; however, i have the ability to change it myself in my car.

saying that the preamp voltage needed is amplification dependent is true to a small degree. If you were to have 2V preouts running to an amp that needs to put out 4V (sqrt(18watts RMS x 1ohm...unrealistic, but whatever)), then 2V preouts would work great, and 8V preouts would be a little excessive and might potentially even fry the amp. But nobody runs such low wattages from auxilary amplification. I for example am running about 1800watts RMS at 1 ohm from my Merlin MD2. So thats about 42.4V that my amp needs to put out. Now which would be better, starting at 2V and matching the sensitvity (large slope), or starting at 8V and matching the sensitivity (not so large slope). The larger the slope of the sensitivity, the more chance that audible distortion will occur. and for those who use preamp V booster (16V for example), thats 16V to 42.2V, an even smaller slope. whats the other end of the equation? cause from my perspective, this is it. there is only 1 right and many wrongs. I can only speak for car audio applications. although most of my knowledge should carry over to any audio application, i just cant speak for that.
 


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