Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
#21
03-02-2006, 12:52 AM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
ORIGINAL: HCCAFan
Um dudes...solder is not as good of a conductor as copper...that's why. Unless you are using silver solder which I doubt you have the means for. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that you don't solder speaker wires together. Yes that added resistance will be minimal if you do it right....but to do it right requires some pretty decent skill at soldering and not melting the insulation while not creating a cold solder either. All in all, what's the benefit? Keeping the ends from disconnecting? Any decent sized speaker wire is also going to be 12-14 gauge or bigger and pretty damn hard to get that hot.
Um dudes...solder is not as good of a conductor as copper...that's why. Unless you are using silver solder which I doubt you have the means for. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that you don't solder speaker wires together. Yes that added resistance will be minimal if you do it right....but to do it right requires some pretty decent skill at soldering and not melting the insulation while not creating a cold solder either. All in all, what's the benefit? Keeping the ends from disconnecting? Any decent sized speaker wire is also going to be 12-14 gauge or bigger and pretty damn hard to get that hot.
#22
03-02-2006, 11:20 AM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
My argument is that solder is just not worth it on speaker cables. What's the benefit? There is a chance of making the connection worse and though it is a better conductor than say tape...the current still travels through the past of least resistance which is the copper wire.
And I don't remember why but...I heard it from 2 very reputable sources. One time I was installing speaker cable in walls for a customer of my step fathers and when I went to buy the in wall stuff from a shop that specializes in that kinda thing, the shop owner expressly told me that you never solder speaker wire. Guess I shoulda asked why. The second guy that told me the same thing was the owner of Audio Lab in Wilmington NC. That man hand makes some of the finest speakers in the world down to drawing his own voice coils through a vacuum to coat them with whatever he uses. He also told me "you don't solder speaker connections".
And I don't remember why but...I heard it from 2 very reputable sources. One time I was installing speaker cable in walls for a customer of my step fathers and when I went to buy the in wall stuff from a shop that specializes in that kinda thing, the shop owner expressly told me that you never solder speaker wire. Guess I shoulda asked why. The second guy that told me the same thing was the owner of Audio Lab in Wilmington NC. That man hand makes some of the finest speakers in the world down to drawing his own voice coils through a vacuum to coat them with whatever he uses. He also told me "you don't solder speaker connections".
#23
03-02-2006, 05:20 PM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
Well my 'source' says its the best way to go, and i did it that way, and when i put my 6x9's in the back this week, i'm soldering em.
#25
03-03-2006, 03:27 AM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
ORIGINAL: HCCAFan
My argument is that solder is just not worth it on speaker cables. What's the benefit? There is a chance of making the connection worse and though it is a better conductor than say tape...the current still travels through the past of least resistance which is the copper wire.
And I don't remember why but...I heard it from 2 very reputable sources. One time I was installing speaker cable in walls for a customer of my step fathers and when I went to buy the in wall stuff from a shop that specializes in that kinda thing, the shop owner expressly told me that you never solder speaker wire. Guess I shoulda asked why. The second guy that told me the same thing was the owner of Audio Lab in Wilmington NC. That man hand makes some of the finest speakers in the world down to drawing his own voice coils through a vacuum to coat them with whatever he uses. He also told me "you don't solder speaker connections".
My argument is that solder is just not worth it on speaker cables. What's the benefit? There is a chance of making the connection worse and though it is a better conductor than say tape...the current still travels through the past of least resistance which is the copper wire.
And I don't remember why but...I heard it from 2 very reputable sources. One time I was installing speaker cable in walls for a customer of my step fathers and when I went to buy the in wall stuff from a shop that specializes in that kinda thing, the shop owner expressly told me that you never solder speaker wire. Guess I shoulda asked why. The second guy that told me the same thing was the owner of Audio Lab in Wilmington NC. That man hand makes some of the finest speakers in the world down to drawing his own voice coils through a vacuum to coat them with whatever he uses. He also told me "you don't solder speaker connections".
#26
03-03-2006, 03:43 PM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
I never have and never will. Like I said before, decent speaker wire for compnets is 12-14 gauge. I use 10 gauge and 8 on the subs (when I have some). To get wire that thick hot enough to solder right will take so much heat the insulation will begin to melt and the wire is probably getting brittle. At least if a wire untwists or the snap connectors pop off you can fix it right then on the fly. When solder F's up you gotta strip wire back and twist it for a quick fix or wait until you have time and a soldering gun....all to make a connection slightly less optimal. It almost seems like reaching over your shoulder to wipe your *** to me.
#27
03-03-2006, 04:50 PM
RE: Where is the best place to get switch power from for a new deck?
I'm not talking about in-house. Theres no way i'm gonna twist wires together and tape them, and tuck them into my car. what if the current goes up, melts the tape, creates a short, and starts a fire. Then you're f-ed. the only way solder will f up is if you f it up.
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