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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:12 AM
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okay once it stops raining I’ll try to get the video for you. I’ll get that Bluetooth adapter ordered as well. Dumb question about timing. When it’s idling it’s jumping around from 13° to 20° is that normal?
Yes, timing can vary a lot on these vehicles because timing is PCM controlled (not distributor controlled) and it can instantly change it to anything it decides. As long as distributor rotor is pointing at the correct terminal, distributor has no affect on timing. But when the spark does come through the rotor must be pointed correctly or the spark will jump internally and cause a misfire. The correct rotor orientation is read by the "Cam Sensor Retard" PID. This is a common cause of misfire on Blazers and late 1990's Vortec V8s (same fuel injection setup), and why its important to have a scanner that can read this GM enhanced PID. Just something that is always suspect and should be verified on these vehicles. Distributor gear wear is usually the culprit, but stretched timing chain can also cause cam sensor retard to be off. Spec is zero degrees plus/minus 2 degrees.
 

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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 02blazer02
There also a noise coming from the front of the engine when I rev it up, I’m almost certain it’s the water pump but I’m not sure if it could be the timing chain as I’m unsure of how many miles are on it. Title showed 145xxx and that was reported in 2020 but the cluster says 136xxx
you can take the belt off to tell which. FWIW a 2002 should have a tensioner on the timimg chain
 

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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LesMyer
you can take the belt off to tell which. FWIW a 2002 should have a tensioner on the timimg chain
I honestly didn’t think of that🤦‍♂️. I have put in a whole new distributor, cap and rotor from oreillys, so it would be safe to rule out the distributor gear. When I put it in time I checked the chain wear through the rotor by turning the engine in either direction and it moved instantly with no hesitation. Are there any reasonably priced scanners that will read what I need and be able to adjust if need be?
 
Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 02blazer02
I honestly didn’t think of that🤦‍♂️. I have put in a whole new distributor, cap and rotor from oreillys, so it would be safe to rule out the distributor gear. When I put it in time I checked the chain wear through the rotor by turning the engine in either direction and it moved instantly with no hesitation. Are there any reasonably priced scanners that will read what I need and be able to adjust if need be?
Either Dash Command or Car Diagnostic Pro will read it. Thats about all your inexpensive options for cam sensor retard.
 
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Either Dash Command or Car Diagnostic Pro will read it. Thats about all your inexpensive options for cam sensor retard.

is this the app you’re talking about?

 
Old Nov 6, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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is this the app you’re talking about?
yes, thats it! Remember WiFi if you have iphone. Bluetooth if you have android.
 

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Old Nov 7, 2022 | 02:48 PM
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yes, thats it! Remember WiFi if you have iphone. Bluetooth if you have android.
so I pulled out my Dist cap that I put on before swapping my distributor and spark isn’t hitting the terminals in the center. It’s more to the side of them. As soon as I pulled in my driveway last night my radiator gave out 😒😒
 
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Sorry to hear that.

Position on the distributor terminal receiving the spark depends on the timing at that moment. So the rotor position is set so terminal is "reachable" throughout the timing range. Running down highway will make different visible pattern than will idling around town. Only way to accurately check/set is with cam sensor retard.
 
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Originally Posted by LesMyer
Video and sound of the engine running and misfiring. If you want to also show the whole blazer shaking, or if you want to show anything while driving please do. I find uploading to youtube with link in post works well.

Car Diagnostic Pro is Android only.

If you have Iphone only then get Dash Command and the BAFX WiFi adapter (different). Then after you install app go into app and pay $10 more for GM PIDs for 2002. Will not be able to work with other vehicle systems like in Car Diagnostic Pro but the enhanced GM Powertrain PIDs are quite good. This is probably around $40 total. I see we can do the plot functions within a gauge. I have Dash Command too (but for Android). As far as I know its the same for Iphone.

sorry I’ve been MIA been down for a bit with Covid and finally feeling better. So I got to reading on spark plugs… and I cheaped out when I replaced them the first time and went with the cheapest. So yesterday I went and but the bullet and bought ACDelco iridium plugs and my miss is totally gone now. I still have the code p0101 though and when that code is on it absolutely will not shift into OD
 
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