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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 04:46 PM
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OK now turn the ignition to run, do not start the truck, pull the crank fuse and the relay and repeat those 4 measurements.

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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 04:53 PM
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85 = 4.7v
86 = -0.04v
87 = 0.004v
30 = 12.5v
 
Old Sep 21, 2024 | 05:01 PM
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Here is what I think is happening. You have a short to power between the crank fuse and the relay energizing coil on 85 but it’s corroded and a crappy short. The voltage is not enough to energize the start relay but it is enough to keep it energized once the ignition switch engages it in the start position. This power source for the short is switched with the run position of the ignition switch. This partial short to power is either is the wire loom between the UHFB and the NSS or the NSS is hosed. Start by pulling the connectors at the NSS at the trans and repeat the 4 voltage measurement with the key in run and the crank fuse and start relay pulled.

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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 05:03 PM
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BTW, you are now in the running for a hall of fame electrical problem that is weird AF. My absolute favorite type!

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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Thx for the help. That's what I was leaning towards as well, just been hopeful that there was some other magical phenomena I was missing like ECM wackiness or something of that nature. I'm going to do some more digging tomorrow and get back to you. NSS is new so probably crappy short lol
 
Old Sep 21, 2024 | 05:13 PM
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There are four likely causes: bad NSS, corrosion under the UHFB, a short in the wire run to the NSS or a short in the wire run back up to the start relay.

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Old Sep 22, 2024 | 03:16 PM
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Did some borescoping and found what looked like a chaffed harness to the passenger side of the distributor. Moved some stuff and peeled the harness back to find this under the oil pressure sensor



Not content with that, I moved upstream to where I'd seen the harness chaffing on a bolt and found the short to power


 
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Originally Posted by EuphoricSponge
Did some borescoping and found what looked like a chaffed harness to the passenger side of the distributor. Moved some stuff and peeled the harness back to find this under the oil pressure sensor



Not content with that, I moved upstream to where I'd seen the harness chaffing on a bolt and found the short to power

Bingo, nice work! Diagnostics wins the day.

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Problem solved, the truck is ready to get back to work! Thx for the help
 
Old Sep 22, 2024 | 09:24 PM
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Thats what I like to hear.

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