To be honest, I'm shocked that we can still buy oil with our dollar, or anything else for that matter. It is beyond me that we can still prop up this corpse of an economy. I have heard that our debt is greater than the sum of everything we own. And China is the bank! The Cloward and Piven strategy IMO was completed in the 90's-2009 (which public healthcare will be a part of), and then the final nail was when Obama and the democratically controlled congress and senate shattered the debt ceiling with the 787 billion dollar stimulus, 410 billion home buyer's stimulus and 107 trill or unfunded liabilities -- money we owe, while our GDP is 14 trill. So, we would all have to work for free for 7 years and 6 months and not spend a single dime on food or gas. See you in the salt mine comrades!

This is a really negative comment, but I honestly don't see a way out and I have no idea why the lights are still on. There is going to come a time when China won't let us borrow any more. If we are EXTREMELY lucky, China will just let us stop borrowing and finance our debt for the next thousand or so years. However, what kind of a lender would they be if they didn't call their money back quickly and with interest.

I love America and know it's the best nation on the planet, but the government has absolutely run wild and spent all of us into an early grave as we will be all going to China to work off our nation's debt.

But cheer up, it's an election year, and 2012 is only two years off. Maybe people have gotten a taste of overspending and don't want to be here ever again. Do your children a favor and this November, find a candidate that will put an end to the madness.

Regards,

Thomas

 

I know what you mean sir. For example, its a tragic thing what happened in Haiti. My thoughts and prayers are with those people and I hope the death toll isn't as bad as the estimates predict. But sending $100,000,000? I get sending something, but that much? The UN and every other major nation in the world is contributing to them as well, plus individuals are helping out.

IMO- a better thing to do would have been to send say $10,000,000 from the gov'ment (we'd be viewed as even bigger a-holes than we already are, for whatever reason, if we didn't send anything) and then for Obama to get on tv (his favorite hobby apparently), and make a private donation from HIS bank account, to lead by example in the hopes that citizens do the same. I would've respected that and it could've saved $90,000,000 in tax payer dollars. There are people in this country who need help and we need to start helping our own citizens. Help though, not take care of. Essentially give them swimming lessons so to speak, and then they'll be able to swim on their own.

 

I don't mind helping those who are willing to help (better) themselves. I'm not a fan of handouts to people who expect them and in return do nothing to better themselves or the quality of their lives.

It is sad to know that some donations for 'HAITI' will ultimately end up in the hands of scammers. Before I say that the people of haiti need to deal with their government, us folks here in the us need to do the same. Whats that saying? 'LEAD BY EXAMPLE'.

 

I hope this isn't taken wrong but this is what i thought about today while listening to the news. If the people of Haiti were living in such conditions as they were before this horrible disaster, is what we are doing maybe going a little too overboard. Such as this example.
I live in a moble home, trailor, whatever. If I lost my house and the goverment helped fix it and rebuild. I would be very grateful. Now if they rebuilt me a mansion compared to my old trailor, I would go in debt trying to keep up maintanice and bills on it. We really need to help clean up and rebuild, but keep in mind that this is a povershed nation that doesn't have savings and huge incomes to afford upkeep on hew homes.

Kinda like game shows when you win a car. I wouldn't want to. It would be nice but I couldn't afford the license, insurance, and all that jazz. Take someone with little, give them alot. And it might hurt them instead of helping. I know that might not have sounded right or sounded mean, thats not my intention. Sometimes I have a hard time getting the thoughts in my head to come out right. Keep them in your prayers, text "Haiti" to 90999 to donate $10 to the efforts.

Lighter note. I filled up today. Chevron in Charleston WV. Cost $40 to go from around 1/8th tank to full. Did'nt pay attention to price. Was too excited to go get my new tires! Thats just my luck, wait forever to get bigger tires that will affect my MPG and just when I decide to get them gas goes up.

 

Enjoy your new tires! That's my favorite part of cars!

As for what we are doing in Haiti, pretty much anything we do to elevate them will make no difference. Their presidential palace is the size of our Capitol building. That's where the aid goes. That is why the people are so poor. We setup a democratic election and they elect a communist. Haiti will never change. So, the right thing for use to do would be to help them get back on their aid-absorbing feet. Donate to them to save lives, not to make their country with that joke of a gov't better.

For the record, I am absolutely NOT discouraging donations because those fellow humans need you. However, I am discouraging the idea that Haiti is going to get better if we throw money at it.

I love how gas price discussions become discussions about politics and the environment.

Regards,

Thomas

 

Lately gas prices and politics go hand in hand. For the record, 89 was $2.85/gal for me today.

 

very good choice of words brother.

 

"IMO- a better thing to do would have been to send say $10,000,000 from the gov'ment (we'd be viewed as even bigger a-holes than we already are, for whatever reason, if we didn't send anything) and then for Obama to get on tv (his favorite hobby apparently), and make a private donation from HIS bank account, to lead by example in the hopes that citizens do the same. I would've respected that and it could've saved $90,000,000 in tax payer dollars. There are people in this country who need help and we need to start helping our own citizens. Help though, not take care of. Essentially give them swimming lessons so to speak, and then they'll be able to swim on their own."

I would like to see that as well, but I won't hold my breath for it. I simply don't believe that BHO has the character to exemplify true unselfish leadership. Or anybody else that surrounds him for that matter. Read this familiar creed and then think about the points it makes regarding leadership.

 

Wow! I can't believe that I've had the final word on this thread for the last 3 days. Either my point was well taken or it was missed entirely?

 

^^^no, i just think we've all been busy.

but it was a very well stated point.