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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Does anyone know what would cause this on a 2001 4dr 4wd Blazer with a 3 inch body lift. We checked all the parts and everything seem tight and snug. We changed brake parts and went for an alignment. They could not adjust to fix. They said they could align the drivers side but not the pass side. We tried adjusting the torsion bars back to stock. but the pass side was tight as hell. The drivers side was normal. Any suggestions?




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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Too much lift on the torsion bars... You really should try to describe the problem in the post... From the looks of that image, your tires have too much negative camber, correct?
 
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IDK if he is showing neg camber or excessive toe-in...
 
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Correct. excessive toe-in. My brother bought the truck at an auction to resel it. The front tires were excessively worn on the inside and there was damage to the driver side rotor and wheel hub,What would cause it other than the torsion bar adjustment. Also, forgive me but what does IDK mean? The torsion bar adjustment bolts were screwed all the way in. I screwed them out to match my other 4wd blazer but the shop said they couldn't align it. They think it's the frame but I don't buy it. I think maybe the pass side torsion bar may be screwed up. When I was unscrewing it, it was really tight and I could tell it was under more pressure than the drivers side. on the bad side is the the front end looks like it is stock height. The rear is slightly higher.

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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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I took the Chevy emblem to be the grill emblem showing a view from the front of the truck, not from the top. Both excessive toe-in and excessive negative camber can cause inside tire wear.

Torsion bar adjustment has nothing to do with toe-in though. That would be all controlled by the steering linkage and tie rod ends. If things are bent in the center link, then it will pull the tires in, possibly outside the bounds of what the tie rod ends can correct for safely. You could also have a bent control arm or two if the truck took an impact on the driver side at one point of time or another (just speculating on the damage to the hub/rotor on the driver side). Could be a curb hit or more.
 
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IDK= I Don't Know
 
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Swart, you were right it was the front view as if you were standing in front of the truck. Sorry, I was a bit twisted around with my terminology.
 
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Ok, back to the camber side of things. Yes, this can be affected by the torsion bars, but typically only if it is lifted. As a vehicle is lifted, the shorter upper control arm pulls the top of the tire in as the suspension geometry changes. But if you are already down to stock ride height, I would have a look at the control arms. It is possible that the upper control arm is bent or that the lower control arm has started to tear out the ball joint area (not all that easy to do). I am betting on a bent upper control arm. This can happen if the truck has been jumped and landed hard on the front end.

Someone with a bit of time could measure the distance from the center of the ball joint to the center of the pivot for comparison.
 
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^^^ Exactly what swartlkk said, either the center link is bent, tie rod ends are ran in too far, or other front end steerin components damaged/past their means. Also, do you have any pics of the hub/rotor assembly? A picture is worth a thousand comments!
 
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Given that the picture posted by the OP above is a front view, as confirmed by the OP, with the tops of the tires in further than the bottoms (negative camber), the tie rods, center link, and other associated steering parts do not come into play as they do not modify the camber.
 



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