Engine runs bad with MAF plugged in
I am not well versed on the 4.3 engine, but i am working on a project and i have just swapped in a low-milage motor (2003) from a junkyard. I have it running and it will run just fine if i have the MAF unplugged. If i turn off the motor and plug in the MAF, it will start right up and run fine for a few seconds and then start bogging and chugging and choke itself out. So far, here is what i have replaced:
Cap/Rotor/Plugs/Wires
MAP Sensor
IAC sensor
TPS sensor
New MAF sensor.
I have tested the voltage at the MAF and have 12v and good ground. I have also tried to eliminate any vacuum leaks and have done the propane test around the intake with no noticeable change in engine speed.
Where should i go from here? Since it seems to run fine without the MAF plugged in, can i just run without it? What would be the consequences of doing so?
Cap/Rotor/Plugs/Wires
MAP Sensor
IAC sensor
TPS sensor
New MAF sensor.
I have tested the voltage at the MAF and have 12v and good ground. I have also tried to eliminate any vacuum leaks and have done the propane test around the intake with no noticeable change in engine speed.
Where should i go from here? Since it seems to run fine without the MAF plugged in, can i just run without it? What would be the consequences of doing so?
- Do you have codes?
- When you checked the reference voltage to the maf did you do so in reference to thr maf ground at the plug?
- If you have a scanner with live data, what is the maf reading at idle and if it runs well enough, at the moment of full ecceleration into the 1-2 shift?
- What are your fuel trims at idle and at 2500 rpm?
- Make sure that you dont have an intake air leak after the maf
- Can you look at a graph of O2 sensors?
Thank you for the reply.
1. I do have one code, but it is for EGR.
2. I did not check reference voltage using the ground at the meter, i checked voltage on the wire and ground on the engine/exhaust manifold. I will check that using those wires.
3. I think i should be able to get live data. I cant really drive the vehicle at the moment because it doesnt run well enough with MAF plugged in and also, i have the body off of it and am trying to make sure i have the engine running normally before dropping the body back on.
4. I will see if i can check this. I have several scan tools, seems my Otofix Autel doesnt want to give me much information on this motor
5. I will double check for air leaks between MAF and bonnet. I do not have a hose plugged into the bonnet, but have it taped closed. I will double check there for a vacuum leak.
6. I will see if my other scantool software on my laptop will give me O2 readings.
I was trying to be as vague as possible, as this isnt a normal setup to what most people will be asking for. I am actually putting together a project out of a bunch of different parts.....1995 2dr Blazer frame, 2003 4.3 out of a van, custom standalone wiring harness from Howell EFI to run the 411 PCM red/blue computer, 4L60/NP233, 1964 Scout body. Like i said, i have everything running great as long as the MAF is unplugged, just trying to chase down this last demon. Thank you for your input, i will see what kind of data i can pull.
1. I do have one code, but it is for EGR.
2. I did not check reference voltage using the ground at the meter, i checked voltage on the wire and ground on the engine/exhaust manifold. I will check that using those wires.
3. I think i should be able to get live data. I cant really drive the vehicle at the moment because it doesnt run well enough with MAF plugged in and also, i have the body off of it and am trying to make sure i have the engine running normally before dropping the body back on.
4. I will see if i can check this. I have several scan tools, seems my Otofix Autel doesnt want to give me much information on this motor
5. I will double check for air leaks between MAF and bonnet. I do not have a hose plugged into the bonnet, but have it taped closed. I will double check there for a vacuum leak.
6. I will see if my other scantool software on my laptop will give me O2 readings.
I was trying to be as vague as possible, as this isnt a normal setup to what most people will be asking for. I am actually putting together a project out of a bunch of different parts.....1995 2dr Blazer frame, 2003 4.3 out of a van, custom standalone wiring harness from Howell EFI to run the 411 PCM red/blue computer, 4L60/NP233, 1964 Scout body. Like i said, i have everything running great as long as the MAF is unplugged, just trying to chase down this last demon. Thank you for your input, i will see what kind of data i can pull.
- Do you have codes?
- When you checked the reference voltage to the maf did you do so in reference to thr maf ground at the plug?
- If you have a scanner with live data, what is the maf reading at idle and if it runs well enough, at the moment of full ecceleration into the 1-2 shift?
- What are your fuel trims at idle and at 2500 rpm?
- Make sure that you dont have an intake air leak after the maf
- Can you look at a graph of O2 sensors?
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