SCPI to MPFI Fuel Spider Conversion Fun
I thought I'd share this with you guys in case it's helpful, hopefully it if you have a fuel related misfire and it doesn't throw you off onto the wrong track!
I randomly had a cylinder 5 misfire after my 2002 Chevy Blazer drove just fine the night before. It was a complete dead miss, you could hear it from the exhaust.
I was watching the o2's on my ELM327 scanner with the Torque app, and on bank 1 the o2's were switching lean and then rich way sooner than bank 2 was. LTFT on bank 1 was pegged at +25 (STFT were high as well). Bank 2 was spot on, LTFT at 6 and STFT hovering around 0. There were no change in fuel trims or o2 activity when the #5 spark plug wire was removed. At that point I was pretty certain that the #5 poppet valve had completely clogged.
I had an extra SCPI spider from a 2001 s10 so I threw that in, buttoned up the engine and fired it up... still misfiring (P0300), except much worse and the exhaust reeked of unburned fuel. Bank 1 was spot on this time, and bank 2 was WAY rich. Turns out the fuel lines going to the poppet valves were leaking and flooding the intake with gas. A trip to O'Reily and 400$ later, I installed the new Standard Ignition MPFI spider, and new plenum/TB gaskets. Car runs great now!
This is what I've learned:
Hopefully this helps you if you run into some of these issues, especially that issue with the injector circuit open code if you install one of these. I know there are probably a trillion threads on this but hey, why not?
I randomly had a cylinder 5 misfire after my 2002 Chevy Blazer drove just fine the night before. It was a complete dead miss, you could hear it from the exhaust.
I was watching the o2's on my ELM327 scanner with the Torque app, and on bank 1 the o2's were switching lean and then rich way sooner than bank 2 was. LTFT on bank 1 was pegged at +25 (STFT were high as well). Bank 2 was spot on, LTFT at 6 and STFT hovering around 0. There were no change in fuel trims or o2 activity when the #5 spark plug wire was removed. At that point I was pretty certain that the #5 poppet valve had completely clogged.
I had an extra SCPI spider from a 2001 s10 so I threw that in, buttoned up the engine and fired it up... still misfiring (P0300), except much worse and the exhaust reeked of unburned fuel. Bank 1 was spot on this time, and bank 2 was WAY rich. Turns out the fuel lines going to the poppet valves were leaking and flooding the intake with gas. A trip to O'Reily and 400$ later, I installed the new Standard Ignition MPFI spider, and new plenum/TB gaskets. Car runs great now!
This is what I've learned:
- If you do go with a used unit, be very careful with the spider lines / clips because they are probably very brittle
- The instructions for the MPFI spider mention you need a new bracket for the assembly. You don't need one, as long as you route the lines carefully (it will be a tight fit)
- Oil the gasket on the new spider, it will help seat the unit in the plenum
- Spend the extra money on the intake plenum gaskets, they might look ok, but my TB gasket fell apart when I pulled the old gasket out
- The fuel lines do actually snap into the fuel spider, but they can be a bear to get them to stay in place
- If you get a P0200 and one or more felt misfires after you button everything up, check the electrical pins on the spider injector unit. I had a hard time initially getting mine on and that should have been a tell tale that I had bent the pins on the unit. I didn't even push the connector in at an angle, I pushed straight down but the only picture I took of the entire project illustrates beautifully what happened:

Hopefully this helps you if you run into some of these issues, especially that issue with the injector circuit open code if you install one of these. I know there are probably a trillion threads on this but hey, why not?
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