97 Rocker Valve Adjustment
#101
Engine has to stay running long enough for you to spray flammable type carb cleaner on the suspected areas. If engine smooths out and speed increases - then you have found it. The suspected areas would be the outer edges and center (around MPFI spider connector) of the black plastic upper intake. Also along each side of the lower intake where it meets the cylinder head. Of course disconnected hoses and broken plastic fittings can also be sources of vacuum leaks. But first it has to stay running long enough to test. is your SES light off when engine is running - has any new codes been set? If no P1345 then your distributor is in correctly. A couple more places to check for vac leaks is the MAP sensor and power brake fitting where they push through the plastic upper intake.
#102
It's OK - I thought you had a scanner. No big deal. Really nothing to worry about at this point.
#103
I'd like to know the answer to what "C-N-T" has asked in post #97
You said you were not able to turn the engine by hand?
But with the starter it did turn over?
And what noise did it make?
And did it start right away or did it require a lot of turns on the starter?
You said you were not able to turn the engine by hand?
But with the starter it did turn over?
And what noise did it make?
And did it start right away or did it require a lot of turns on the starter?
#104
The engine did not knock like this when I bought the truck. I knew it had a blown head gasket when i bought it. They told me the engine never over heated. They said it died on them and they pushed it back home and it sat for 2 weeks before I bought it. Drove fine until i changed the oil, it had a lack of power during acceleration. First thing i did was remove the milky oil, and I overfilled it by 2 QTS and added Bar's Leak Blown Head Gasket Fix to the radiator. The oil was milky brown, like coffee with creamer. Drove it around my apt complex after I changed the oil and thats when I noticed the lack of power, thought it was fuel filter so I replaced it, but it still wasn't trying to pull and I would have my foot to the floor to get it to get up, kind of pump the gas pedal. I'm guessing it was the overfilled oil causing that.
Eventually I ended up replacing the intake manifold and after some trouble with installing the distributor, I fired it up and it started and ran but had that knock and has had it ever since.
Last edited by Tynan Tha Real Dill; 06-24-2017 at 11:56 AM.
#106
In my previous post i was thinking something is wrong in the timing but thinking about it now are you sure you have the plug wires on the distributor cap correctly? Its kinda odd on these caps.
the drivers side starting in the front and going back is not 1,3,5 wires like you would think. Its actually 3,1,5. so the #3 plug wire is first then #1 then #5.
on the passenger side its the usual 2,4,6, then coil wire.
the drivers side starting in the front and going back is not 1,3,5 wires like you would think. Its actually 3,1,5. so the #3 plug wire is first then #1 then #5.
on the passenger side its the usual 2,4,6, then coil wire.
#107
In my previous post i was thinking something is wrong in the timing but thinking about it now are you sure you have the plug wires on the distributor cap correctly? Its kinda odd on these caps.
the drivers side starting in the front and going back is not 1,3,5 wires like you would think. Its actually 3,1,5. so the #3 plug wire is first then #1 then #5.
on the passenger side its the usual 2,4,6, then coil wire.
the drivers side starting in the front and going back is not 1,3,5 wires like you would think. Its actually 3,1,5. so the #3 plug wire is first then #1 then #5.
on the passenger side its the usual 2,4,6, then coil wire.
Last edited by Tynan Tha Real Dill; 06-25-2017 at 05:45 PM.
#108
PS from the July 1st - 4th, my salvage yard is having a 40% off sale on everything, including engines. I can afford the engine with that discount. If we can figure out before the first if I should keep working on this engine or replace it, that would be great so I can plan ahead, don't want to miss this opportunity if I need it ! I really appreciate all the help you've given me so far !!! We're finally closing in on this problem !!
#109
Ok, as a future reference and if needed, I plan on pulling an engine (4.3 Vortec) from a '97 Oldsmobile Bravada. It hasnt been touched and it only has 44,000 miles on it ! Now, if I bring a car battery and attach it to that truck, (in case I dont have to manually check the engine) could I hotwire it to fire the engine up ? If not Ill check it manually, but if so, how can I hotwire it ?
#110
Ok, I waited until daylight to check my vacuum lines and I had none of my lines connected. Installed my valve covers back on, connected all the lines, put everything back together correctly, turned the key over...dead battery, waiting on it to charge up now so Ill fire her up tonight or tomorrow and Ill shoot another video and upload it. The video link Im adding this time, has the dash gauges on start up and running a little (had to keep my foot on the gas to keep it from stalling). Also I show the engine bay with the engine running, notice the shaky engine when the rpm lowers but as I give it some gas and rpm rises the shaking stops and quiets. Smoke was coming from the throttle body ? Could this be because none of my vacuum lines weren't connected ?
PS from the July 1st - 4th, my salvage yard is having a 40% off sale on everything, including engines. I can afford the engine with that discount. If we can figure out before the first if I should keep working on this engine or replace it, that would be great so I can plan ahead, don't want to miss this opportunity if I need it ! I really appreciate all the help you've given me so far !!! We're finally closing in on this problem !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlorFXU73bY
PS from the July 1st - 4th, my salvage yard is having a 40% off sale on everything, including engines. I can afford the engine with that discount. If we can figure out before the first if I should keep working on this engine or replace it, that would be great so I can plan ahead, don't want to miss this opportunity if I need it ! I really appreciate all the help you've given me so far !!! We're finally closing in on this problem !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlorFXU73bY
I say all of this because I have done it in the past. I installed the distributor 180 degrees off on the first Performance V8 engine I put together for my old S10 and almost destroyed a brand new cam shaft. the piston was at the top of the cyl and I didnt know about the valves at the time. so I installed the distributor and aligned with #1 plug the first few times I cranked it she was popping through the carb like yours is coming through the throttle body. Once I installed the dist correctly it cranked right up and ran like a dream.
Would you be able to get the engine at TDC and take a picture of the distributor with the cap off so we can see where the rotor is sitting?
If you still have the timing mark on the harmonic balancer and the timing tab on the block or timing cover line those up.
Also I am still curious how you checked the bearing in the bottom end? did you pull main caps off to see the inner surface of the bearings?
Last edited by ChuckNTruck; 06-25-2017 at 08:12 PM.