Is the leak here at the corner of the timing cover?
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Ya right there

 

I had to order it but I got a new cover and oil pan gasket on the way

 

So your gonna tell me im not a dumbass and its something else right? I had to order it but I got a new cover and oil pan gasket on the way.

 

I really don't like this configuration of timing cover and oil pan. To be honest on my last tear down I was removing the timing cover before the pan and bent the cover around a good bit. On the rebuild I forgot about this and just kept building. I don't like adding RTV with a perfectly new gasket and that is why I had to go back in.
I used brake cleaner and let the surfaces dry prior to RTV application. I loosened the timing cover so I could move it back from the block a tiny bit. Just enough to get some RTV in behind the lower corners as the material on the cover does not come all the way to the bottom. I applied the RTV there and throughtout the channel where the gasket rides. I don't immediately mate the pan to the block. I let the RTV skin up some so it will not adhear to the gasket. Are you skinning the RTV before you are mating the two surfaces, When I do mate the pan I use one hand to hold it in place while I get the #1 & #2 bolts in to snug. Not tight, all bolts must go in prior to tightening per the pattern. In other words once I get them mated they do not come apart.

Have you got the pumpkin back in?

 

No on the pumpkin I was running it checking for leaks first... I let the rtv sit about five minutes it was cleaned with brakeclean prior and had a buddy hold the pan while i started the bolts. I started with the front 2 bolts got all the bolts in exluding the bell housing bolts torqued to spec in sequence I then let it sit for a day and a half trying to let the rtv cure and got busy at my day job. The pan seemed perfectly lined up and a apropriate amount of rtv applyed. I decided to just purchase a new cover and pan gasket and I'm just gonna use a ridiculous amount of rtv on the whole thing. At this point I don't know what else to do... I'm using permatex ultra black rtv any suggestions an another brand?

 

That is what I use. The new timing cover may be what you need. Is the one you put on a new one. Using an old timing cover usually does not work with these plastic covers. I would not RTV the entire oil pan.

 

Sorry I didn't read all the way back in your thread but on 2 gen engines you are to replace the timing cover with a new one.The old ones are not to be resused cause of warpage.

 

Ya I did replace it the first time