1995 Blazer fuel pump won't turn off
That's true for most 1995 models, but not for all of them.
Every GM assembly plant switched over to full OBD-II engine controls and wiring before the VIN's changed. There are vehicles out there with "S" (1995) in the year position of the VIN that have 1996 engine wiring and PCM's. Some plants rolled out OBD-II cars for a few months with 1995 VINs, some for only a few weeks.
The opening post said this:
I read that to mean that his PCM (ECU or whatever you want to call it) is under the hood on the passenger side, by the coolant recovery tank, and that his OBD-II connector will yield real data when connected to an OBD-II (only) scan tool.
If that's what he has, his wiring is virtually identical to my 1996.
If he has an early 1995 with the PCM under the dash and the 12 pin ALDL or the 16 pin ALDL connector that looks exactly like an OBD-II DLC, but isn't really OBD-II, then you are correct and his wiring is different from my 1996.
Every GM assembly plant switched over to full OBD-II engine controls and wiring before the VIN's changed. There are vehicles out there with "S" (1995) in the year position of the VIN that have 1996 engine wiring and PCM's. Some plants rolled out OBD-II cars for a few months with 1995 VINs, some for only a few weeks.
The opening post said this:
I read that to mean that his PCM (ECU or whatever you want to call it) is under the hood on the passenger side, by the coolant recovery tank, and that his OBD-II connector will yield real data when connected to an OBD-II (only) scan tool.
If that's what he has, his wiring is virtually identical to my 1996.
If he has an early 1995 with the PCM under the dash and the 12 pin ALDL or the 16 pin ALDL connector that looks exactly like an OBD-II DLC, but isn't really OBD-II, then you are correct and his wiring is different from my 1996.
So Captain's comment is spot on. But good call on the rear wiper!
The biggest difference is that it was impossible to meet the OBD-II standards with the earlier injector, sensors and electronics. OBD-II required an upstream and downstream O2 sensor on each primary cat because it requires DTC's for catalyst failures on each bank. You also can't have a single injector feeding both banks on an OBD-II compliant system because any injector related DTC's and fuel trim data streams must identify the cylinder bank (but can optionally identify a specific cylinder). That's why separate injectors were required for OBD-II. All of the differences you mentioned are the very definition of "OBD-II compliant."
A friend of mine has a 1995 S-10 pickup. It's a 1995 model with "S" in the VIN for the year, but it was manufactured in July of 1995, and it is fully OBD-II compliant. It has the same spider as my 1996 Bravada, with the same big wiring connector. It has the same PCM over by the coolant recovery tank. It has 4 O2 sensors and all the other things you mentioned, all of which are required for OBD-II compliance. The only thing it doesn't have that a 1996 S-10 pickup would have is the "T" in the VIN. It was made before the calendar rolled over to "T" VINs.
In 1995, it was a very unusual year. Every GM assembly plant had major retooling because every GM engine changed electronics and fuel system components for the 1996 model year. OBD-II was mandate by the government, with huge fines per unit for any 1996 model year vehicle (VIN with a "T") made with non-compliant parts. If GM missed the deadlines, the fines/penalties for producing non-compliant vehicles would have been over $1 million per plant per day for most of their assembly plants. So, the retooling teams went out about 3 months earlier than most years in order to convert all of the plants over to the 1996 engines, electronics and fuel systems before the deadline. Once an assembly plant was converted, it turned out vehicles with 1996, OBD-II compliant engines and electronics. Every plant was operational and producing vehicles with 1996, fully OBD-II compliant engines while the timer/calendar on the VINs was still in the 1995 model year (VINs with an "S"). When the calendar switched to VIN "T", 1996 models, the letter in the VIN was all that changed.
When you have a fully OBD-II compliant, late production "1995" GM vehicle, your engine is identical to a 1996 vehicle of the same model and engine. The only difference is the model year letter in the VIN.
Thanks. I just had the exact same experience a week or so ago. Mainly dumb luck there.
Now you are just arguing for argument's sake... My exact words were "every 95 blazer" which is 100% accurate. I am well aware of the change over in the 95 s-series pickups, but this is BlazerForum...
BTW, you're also arguing with yourself. Quoting this post of yours from 2009:
Just to expand on this topic, here are the configurations available in 95:
- Fully OBD1 - OBD1 connector under the dash on the driver side with the ECU under the dash on the passenger side. Early 95 models could have this configuration.
- Mongrel OBD1/OBD2 - OBD2 connector under the dash on the driver side with the ECU located under the dash on the passenger side. This is the most prevalent arrangement for the 95 model year. It is uncertain when the change over happened from fully OBD1 to this twisted mess. This is the one where most (if not all) economical scan tools available cannot read stored codes. It depends on your definition of "economical".
- Fully OBD2 - OBD2 connector under the dash on the driver side with the PCM located under the hood on the passenger side. Only late model year 95's got this configuration, but again, I have not been able to find any change over information.
Last edited by Racer_X; May 15, 2016 at 10:35 AM. Reason: added PS:
Nothing in that post is contradictory to my statements. Not once here have I stated that 95s were not OBD2, only that your statements of the "nearly identical" setups between the op's 95 s-series suv and your 96 was incorrect for the stated reasons as you will find if you actually read what was posted. You are mistaking OBD2 compliance (PCM on the coolant tank) with the actual controls of the fuel system and the wiring/programming involved which are considerably different between the two years. The SCFI fuel system with MAF controls was not implemented until the 96 model year for the s-series suvs and did not exist in a 95 model year s-series suvs, period. The production numbers were not there to warrant a change over in the suvs like the trucks went through.
I'm not arguing, just stating the facts of the matter.
I'm not arguing, just stating the facts of the matter.
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