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Old Oct 30, 2024 | 06:09 AM
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You completely replaced the entire UHFB meaning the whole body amd transfered the wiring over from the original UHFB?

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no, I swapped the box itself and all new relays and fuses
 
Old Oct 30, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rspara
no, I swapped the box itself and all new relays and fuses
The key is to unbolt the UHFB tilt it up and examine the wiring and jumpers under the assembly especially in the area of ecm1 and eng1.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeLG
The key is to unbolt the UHFB tilt it up and examine the wiring and jumpers under the assembly especially in the area of ecm1 and eng1.

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when I swapped the box I looked at them and everything looked okay, no burnt wires corrosion etc
 
Old Oct 30, 2024 | 04:35 PM
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ECM1 has 6V on it and right next to it in the UHFB is ENG1 with 12V. They are both fed by the same circuit and the wiring diagram implies that they are connected under the fuse block which is why I expected you to find corrosion in that location:


Since there was no damage under the UHFB then they must join further back so follow the wires under the UHFB from the two sets of socket pins back towards the power source until they join. Something is wrong between those two points.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeLG
ECM1 has 6V on it and right next to it in the UHFB is ENG1 with 12V. They are both fed by the same circuit and the wiring diagram implies that they are connected under the fuse block which is why I expected you to find corrosion in that location:


Since there was no damage under the UHFB then they must join further back so follow the wires under the UHFB from the two sets of socket pins back towards the power source until they join. Something is wrong between those two points.

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what is the computer or box that’s in the passenger kick panel kind of like under the dash
 
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what is the computer or box that’s in the passenger kick panel kind of like under the dash
I don't know. Anyone else?

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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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I don't know. Anyone else?

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I figured out that it’s the tcc module, if my bcm had gotten wet at al of the humidity from the water messed with it do you think it possibly be the cause of this?
 
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I sure would have liked to get to the bottom of only having 6v on ecm1 because that might lead us to your problem. That said:

Since you have no voltage at either crank fuse socket with the ignition in the start position but you do have 12 at the Ign C fuse then you have a loss of power in the wiring from the Ign C fuse to the ignition switch, the ignition switch itself or the wiring from the ignition switch to the crank fuse (see attached). I would probe the orange wire at the ignition switch to make sure that crank power has come into the switch and then measure the voltage out on the yellow wire at the ignition switch while in the crank position.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeLG
I sure would have liked to get to the bottom of only having 6v on ecm1 because that might lead us to your problem. That said:

Since you have no voltage at either crank fuse socket with the ignition in the start position but you do have 12 at the Ign C fuse then you have a loss of power in the wiring from the Ign C fuse to the ignition switch, the ignition switch itself or the wiring from the ignition switch to the crank fuse (see attached). I would probe the orange wire at the ignition switch to make sure that crank power has come into the switch and then measure the voltage out on the yellow wire at the ignition switch while in the crank position.

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I’ll check voltage on the whole ignition switch this Friday when I get back in town and send what I find
 
Old Jan 5, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeLG
I sure would have liked to get to the bottom of only having 6v on ecm1 because that might lead us to your problem. That said:

Since you have no voltage at either crank fuse socket with the ignition in the start position but you do have 12 at the Ign C fuse then you have a loss of power in the wiring from the Ign C fuse to the ignition switch, the ignition switch itself or the wiring from the ignition switch to the crank fuse (see attached). I would probe the orange wire at the ignition switch to make sure that crank power has come into the switch and then measure the voltage out on the yellow wire at the ignition switch while in the crank position.

George
I finally figured it out, the starter relay and fuel pump relay share a ground it was burnt up somewhere along the wire still haven’t found where yet, but I made a jumper ground to the body from the relay pins and now cluster and everything is working and cranking again, now just have to figure out no spark


 

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