well i guess you'd rather base your findings on nothing, these PG comps were built by or with the help of morel. if you think infinity makes a better set for under $100 you are so totally wrong. and what do you mean "off brand PG"? all the reviews are saying these sound better than the xenons and just as good as the $400 elites. 1 modest review among the seemingly thousands. and what do you mean, last time you checked? do they hold an official sq poll somewhere i havent heard of? i go off sound enthusiasts honest reviews. not i own this, its better than everything statements.


well today i installed a set of Phoenix Gold RSD 6.5" comps in my Scion tC. the install was fairly easy and painless for the most part. i installed the woofers in the doors and the tweeters i flush mounted in the stock kick panels. the set is being powered by a kicker zx550.2 amp with the gains set with a -3db 1khz tone to 150wrms per side.

once i got it all wired up, before i even had the tweeters in their spot i turned it on and made sure everything was good to go. the first thing that popped into my head was "wooooowwww listen to all that mid-bass". just like all the reviews say, the mid-bass is absolutely amazing. especially for the size of the driver and the price you get the set for. the woofers really don't look very beefy but they sure sound like they are. my doors and deadened and sealed though, so if you just drop them in w/o doing that the results might not be the same.

now onto the tweeter, at first i didn't know what to think. i had a slight imaging problem right off the bat. but the guys over at phoenix gold saved me with the sweet pivoting the tweeter offers. i first tried pointing the right side at me(the driver) and the left side at the passenger headrest. but that really made the stage sound weird. it sounded very to the right side of the car. but even with the tweeter mounted down in the kick panel i was able to easily make the sound stage sound like it was much higher than it looks. now when female vocals are played they sound like they are coming right from the center, kinda like the bottom center of the windshield or right at the top center of the dash. everything sounds very good and very centered.

for the EQing right now i have 50hz and 80hz boosted by 2, and 125 boosted by 1, and that's it. i don't think the midrange or high end even needs to be messed with. my head unit also has time alignment but i already had it set for the factory speakers so that was done already and seems to be fine so far. i have the fronts crossed at 63hz at a 12db slope, and the sub also crossed at 63 at a 12db slope, and the factory rears i have off head unit power but faded out pretty low, crossed at 100hz. i played a few rap songs just for the hell of it and i think crossing them over at 63hz is to low. i feel if i really give them a lot of volume with certain songs i might be pushing them a bit much. but for any rock song that point is fine, i even played them full range and they were perfectly fine.

i already played them for probably a good 3-4 hours at least, maybe even 5. i listen mainly to rock, alternative, and metal(but not crazy death metal). everything i threw at them sounded excellent. on more mellow songs like stuff from 311's cd Transistor, or ****ation by opeth, everything sounded very crisp, detailed, and clear. when i play stuff that was a little faster and i don't wanna say harsh but stuff with a lot of crazy highs they sound good as well but the tweeters really come alive and sound really loud. maybe even a little bit bright (but not harsh), but i am going to assume that they will mellow out a lil bit over time. but really the tweeter is great.

overall for the money i have no complaints yet at all. well worth the $87 shipped they were on ebay.

now this is only my second set of comps that i have owned. i had a set of Infinity kappa perfect 6.1's a while back. i honestly at the time i kinda liked them but that was before i really had a lot of experience with car audio. the infinity's were definetly very harsh and had no midbass what so ever. i will leave off with a couple pictures, if anybody has any questions or comments let me know and i will answer them the best i can. i will update this after i get more time on them as well

 

the RSD6.5CS is probably one of the most underrated cheaper set of components you can get, they get loud, and sound awesome doing it. You will not find a better set in the price range, hell, even double the price range.

Just because they're cheap doesn't mean they're not very good, I've had my kickpanel set for two years and they run off 125wrms a side. They handle the power (i think they can take more) and they sound great doing it.

the above review is pretty spot on, I also had a set of infinitys, not in the blazer, but in one of my cars and they were extremely harsh, I didn't realize this until I had switched to the PG's.

 

ya, i hate those tweeters that make it feel like your ears are bleeding, everyone that hears mine comment about how clear the sound is. mostly friends and family, non enthusiasts....

 

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB65...w&rvm=ShowAllt

I'm not planning on amping them anytime in the near future... just wondering if you guys know anything about these. I need something to replace my crunch components because they are not loud enough and are being drowned out by the sub and then when I do try to crank them they distort. All the reviews say they are good. Just wanted to get your guys opinion.

 

Well I have never had a chance to try out or hear anything polk but I think your problem may lie somewhere else. Your stock head units signal is very minimal considering upgrading to a aftermarket only gets you to around 15-20 watts per speaker. At high volume the deck, be it stock or aftermarket, will "clip" the noise. This is seen easily by this graph. This is a signal coming out of your speaker at perfect non-clipped volume. Now once you turn it up more the curves will get bigger but because you are maxing out your stereo the tops will flatten out. only reaching a certain point and staying there no matter how much you turn it up.

Usually its heard with bass but since you mentioned it being drowned out by your sub, you have externally amplified your signal. That where amping your speakers comes in. Its not just for making it really loud. Its for making it crystal clear at those volumes. I can listen to my stereo at ear bleeding volumes and still sound like I'm listening to a set of extremely expensive headphones.

Find a cheap, used amp. look at the ohms of your speaker, then find an amp that has more than 20w per speaker at that ohm. This is a nice amp for the money.

Correct me if I'm wrong tho guys! I don't know everything lol

I went through 3 sets of speakers in my old car when I just had subs. They sounded blown because I would crank them up! I later found out that it was the head unit. I upgraded to aftermarket which made a big difference but still had clipping issues. Its all in the amplification. Small amp can mean the difference between having a crappy sounding system with lots of bass, to a balanced system that sounds great!

Good luck!

 

Okay I decided this

for the amp a 4 channel so I have room for expansion if needed...

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...+GM-6400F.html

and the polk db651's for in the doors. eventually i'll put in some 4x6's also.

 

Just save up a little extra and get the polk db 6501's. Put the tweeter in the 4x6 hole. 4x6's pretty much all suck. Point the tweeters a little forward and inward. Will bring much happiness

 

Good choice. I like pioneers stuff! Are you eligible for free shipping? lol. Thats a lot more power than stock. Do you have an aftermarket deck?

 

Yeah I just got a new JVC and its only giving them 20 watts RMS. I'm wondering though if I should get a 4 channel or 2 channel... I'm gonna be getting a new sub pushing somewhere between 600-800 watts RMS and I just dont know if two amped speakers up front will be loud enough to hear with that sub going. I mean I think it will be... What do you guys think?

 

One pair of speakers on an external amp feeding in the ~50watts rms or more per channel range should be plenty. For example, I have 2 pair of 6.5" component sets in my van with a total of 400watts rms (100 x 4 four channel) running them and they keep up beautifully with the pair of 12" subs on 2000watts rms power. In my Jimmy I'll have a single pair of ID CTX components on a total of 250watts rms (125 x 2 two channel) with 1500watts rms driving the three 8" subs. Of course ALL setups are different, but ANY external power amp is better than the HU power any day.